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Greenland

The funny part, I live in a state that borders Canada and some people here kind of consider the Canadians cheap welfare layabouts who have nothing to do but park their rented camper vans illegally along coastal roads and then claim they can’t speak English when the local cops show up. At the same time I also know plenty of Canadians (all westerners) who think Ottawa is a shit show that can’t accomplish anything.

The basic takeaway…U.S/Canada relations are at a modern low and a healthy chunk of that is Trump’s fault…but Canada hasn’t always been their own best advocate.


Yeah. I left that part out. But it's also true.

Alberta and BC are as polar opposite from Quebec and Ontario as California and NY are opposite of Texas and Florida.
 
Why should they vote on it? Because the bully American president thinks they should?

A majority portion of the population up there is native to the region. Based on how we treat native people, why should they want to align under the US flag?

Finally, what is the advantage for us in the USA? Are we going to go out there with hairdryers or something and melt the ice cap to get at minerals? Are we preparing to invade Iceland and Norway next?

This is ridiculous. We should leave Greenland the fuck alone.
I inherently agree with this. Not saying I support taking Greenland. I’m just saying that if the current administration tries to do it, which seems likely, I really hope they don’t do it via a hostile takeover. And if the people of Greenland say no then we respect it.
 
I inherently agree with this. Not saying I support taking Greenland. I’m just saying that if the current administration tries to do it, which seems likely, I really hope they don’t do it via a hostile takeover. And if the people of Greenland say no then we respect it.
Let's say it does happen. Do they become the 51st state? With representatives and senators and everything? Or do they become like D.C., where Congress makes the rules and they don't get control of their own destiny..
 
Let's say it does happen. Do they become the 51st state? With representatives and senators and everything? Or do they become like D.C., where Congress makes the rules and they don't get control of their own destiny..
i very much doubt it becomes a state if this happens. Greenland would be more than 5 times smaller than Wyoming population wise. Puerto Rico even has 3 million people and it isn’t even a state which to me already doesn’t make a lot of sense.
 
i very much doubt it becomes a state if this happens. Greenland would be more than 5 times smaller than Wyoming population wise. Puerto Rico even has 3 million people and it isn’t even a state which to me already doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Puerto Rico, much like Greenland, has (would have) no real desire to join the U.S. as a state. On the other side, the U.S. “taking control” of Greenland is just noise. As thin as it might be, at least Trump tried to tie his actions in Venezuela to narcotics and an illegitimate government. Unless he can prove Greenland is participating in the illegal trans-national ice trade under the control of some Nordic dictator, involving ghost fleet shipments to Putin, this isn’t going anywhere.
 
Yeah. I left that part out. But it's also true.

Alberta and BC are as polar opposite from Quebec and Ontario as California and NY are opposite of Texas and Florida.
Canadians, especially those in Ontario, have every reason to feel down on the U.S. Trump has been rough in his comments. That said their PM, Carney, does a pretty good job of deflecting Trump while being civil.

It is tragically funny to see that Canada’s politics look a lot like ours…two polar opposites virtually tied in “popularity.”

 
Puerto Rico, much like Greenland, has (would have) no real desire to join the U.S. as a state. On the other side, the U.S. “taking control” of Greenland is just noise. As thin as it might be, at least Trump tried to tie his actions in Venezuela to narcotics and an illegitimate government. Unless he can prove Greenland is participating in the illegal trans-national ice trade under the control of some Nordic dictator, involving ghost fleet shipments to Putin, this isn’t going anywhere.
I had ChatGPT make an image of that
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Canadians, especially those in Ontario, have every reason to feel down on the U.S. Trump has been rough in his comments. That said their PM, Carney, does a pretty good job of deflecting Trump while being civil.

It is tragically funny to see that Canada’s politics look a lot like ours…two polar opposites virtually tied in “popularity.”

Speaking of Canada, do you have any thoughts on what is going on in BC in regards to this fascinating article on The Atlantic from David Frum?

 
Speaking of Canada, do you have any thoughts on what is going on in BC in regards to this fascinating article on The Atlantic from David Frum?

I’ve been following this via another news source and the situation is a mess. Basically, when Great Britain declared sovereignty over British Columbia in 1846, it never signed treaties with the native people in the region, and so they technically never surrendered their land rights. But that didn’t stop governments from handing parcels of land to settlers, municipalities, and federal agencies anyway, which built a new property system right on top of the old one. Because government proclamations carry official weight the court allows that land acknowledgment exercises (often heard here in the U.S. at academic venues) that mention “unceded” lands could carry legal weight.

Here in the U.S. we (luckily) managed to avoid this by recognizing tribal governments existed and getting them (usually by force) to cede lands in exchange for money, goods, and or reservations. Not exactly nice, but theoretically legal.
 
and so they technically never surrendered their land rights.
The book The Dawn of Everything talks about how the peoples of North America just didn’t treat the concept of land rights the same way that Europeans did. Much more fluid and time varying. I could see a semantic disconnect happening there.

Google searches results for “The dawn of everything and land rights in North America”

 
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