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Gloves

I fly with mine on for takeoff and landing. I hated it initially out of advanced, where I never wore them, but now I can't fly an approach without them...I feel like I over control the plane without them. That little cushion reminds me to caress my fat lady instead of slapping her around.
 
I'm in the "readily available, but never wear them" crowd

(I can hear the "SAFETY VIOLATOR!!!" yelling from here)

There was another pilot who demanded I fly with gloves. I was wearing them when we had to shut down an engine at 1200 feet, at night behind the carrier on an 0% illum night. I had them on, and could not flip PCL checklist pages with them on.

Call me fatalistic, but if there is such a bad fire in the E-2 that I don't have 3 seconds to put my gloves on while dealing with it (I do keep them right in the corner of the glareshield) all the NOMEX in the world is not going to help me as I attempt to unstrap and weasel my way either through a ditching hatch, or through the FEC (which is historically the place that likes to catch on fire)

Not to mention that a bad fire, would also cook my chute as I ran through there.

I didn't wear them flying 60Bs either. I did wear them in the 45 due to the rocket motor strapped to my ass and the MDC on the canopy.
 
Your mother told you you'd go blind and grow a hairy palm if you kept playing with yourself. You just grew ogre hands instead.
 
It's not the button pushing and switch flipping that is a PITA with gloves, it's the 300 page smartpack, FCF cards, and the approach plates that drove me away from gloves. I always wore them (even in the sim) until I started flying FCFs. Then I did it for takeoffs and landings. Then OIF 1 came around and there was NO WAY I was ever going to find the freqs in time on the comm cards (100+ pages) while wearing gloves. I just stopped all together. I'm not even sure where they are right now. It's ironic that the more dangerous the flights got, the less likely I was to be wearing gloves.

This is no longer a problem in the mighty C-12. I've never seen anybody wear them here at all.
 
MasterBates said:
I'm in the "readily available, but never wear them" crowd

(I can hear the "SAFETY VIOLATOR!!!" yelling from here)

There was another pilot who demanded I fly with gloves. I was wearing them when we had to shut down an engine at 1200 feet, at night behind the carrier on an 0% illum night. I had them on, and could not flip PCL checklist pages with them on.

Call me fatalistic, but if there is such a bad fire in the E-2 that I don't have 3 seconds to put my gloves on while dealing with it (I do keep them right in the corner of the glareshield) all the NOMEX in the world is not going to help me as I attempt to unstrap and weasel my way either through a ditching hatch, or through the FEC (which is historically the place that likes to catch on fire)

Not to mention that a bad fire, would also cook my chute as I ran through there.

I didn't wear them flying 60Bs either. I did wear them in the 45 due to the rocket motor strapped to my ass and the MDC on the canopy.
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So what you're saying is that you make a logical decision based on your situation? Wow, what a concept. Isn't that what we are supposed to be groomed to do as officers?
 
Swanee said:
So what you're saying is that you make a logical decision based on your situation? Wow, what a concept. Isn't that what we are supposed to be groomed to do as officers?
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That would make sense; unfortunately, we're talking about the Navy...
 
dilbert123 said:
....We ...flew in the 60's and 70's.

One thing we all have noticed and have discussed from videos showing launches and in-flight maneuvers is the absence of flight gloves. During our day, admittedly long ago, this would have been a serious safety violation and you could be really dinged for not wearing gloves while flying...
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We've addressed this before .... but, once again ... this does not reflect my experience during the same time frame ... UNLESS ... you're talkin' STOOFs (a.k.a. your avatar) ... and then I agree -- most STOOF drivers wore their gloves.
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They also didn't wear underwear ... much like HELO-Pukes of the period ... and the occasional F-8 driver ... :)

TACAIR??? We usually wore gloves ashore -- we usually didn't wear them afloat. Squadrons and Air Wings had their own 'preferences' and 'soft requirements' and 'semi-hard rules' ... but what I'm sayin' is the way it was ... during several deployments w/ more than one Air Wing ...

When I flew Adversary in the Reserves ... probably 50% or slightly less wore gloves on a regular basis.
 
A4sForever said:

They also didn't wear underwear ... much like HELO-Pukes of the period ... and the occasional F-8 driver ... :)
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I sometimes joke about "Commando Fridays" (usually people quickly walk away), but I never knew there was a legitimate heritage to such a thing in naval air. Hmmm :icon_smil
 
I wore mine in my right calf pocket of my G-suit, understanding the rules were being broken and was willing to accept the consequences. When flying around one CO, I wore them after buying many rounds being caught without them. Gotta pick your battles in the land of big boys and gals. We'd better be flying OK-3s every pass, fly hot mike below X feet, masks on startup to shut down, have a perfect kill to be killed ratio, start ironing our flight suits, polishing our boots and cutting every irish pennant off our fireproof PJs before hammering....Coming down hard on perceived minutia such as this dampens morale considerably.

But then again I've never been much for the party line.
 
To wear or not to wear...that is the question

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100729-N-6003P-028 U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (July 29, 2010) Naval Air Crewman 3rd Class Daniel Hersh, left, and Naval Air Crewman 2nd Class Gabriel Rodriguez, both assigned to the Dusty Dogs of Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 7, perform a pre-flight check on an M-240B machine gun on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). HS-7 is deployed as part of the Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kilho Park/Released)
 
Setting the example (also FoHJ)

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100617-N-5812W-061 NORFOLK (June 17, 2010) Lt. Jon Kalbach, an instructor pilot assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 120, checks the blades on an E-2C Hawkeye before his flight. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communications Specialist 2nd Class Sunday Williams/Released)
 
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100526-N-5821P-103 MANAMA, Bahrain (May 26, 2010) Lt. Jeremy Steffen, a pilot assigned to the Desert Hawks of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 26, Detachment 1, performs a pre-flight inspection on an MH-60S Sea Hawk helicopter in Manama, Bahrain. The MH-60S is a twin-engine helicopter used for logistics support, search and rescue, vertical replenishment and naval special warfare support. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jason T. Poplin/Released)
 
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