Give your opinion on officer program in cryptology

[jvd626]

The main reason why I'm joining the navy as an officer in cryptology is I want to get security clearance, leadership, training and then get out as soon as possible to work as a civilian and retain my ts clearance.

What would I need to do to get a high chance of being accepted? How long will the process be? I'd like to go to the BDCP route and I already have around 30 credits from a community college and will transfer to a university next fall and I also have 3.3gpa. I'm 24yrs old and have 3years of work experience as a network systems specialist working with firewalls and all that stuff. Any advice would be great thanks.

Also, what does cryptology in the officer program do to you as far as psychological well being?

 

[EA-6B1]

Standy for burning...

 

[dividebyzero]

Psychological well being?!
That is the most important and insightful question into the field of cryptology an applicant has *ever* asked! I wish to GOD i'd asked that before I went in on the enlisted side.

Actually, for officers, it's really not that bad. There's enough diversity in your tasks that you don't get the opportunity to become a complete neurotic about one fleeting technical aspect.

As a networks systems specialist, if you keep your gpa up, you'll be a shoe-in. If nothing else, depending on where you live, if you ultimately just want to get into the intel community and get your ts clearance and everything, you could just as soon bypass the Navy route entirely.

 

[PU Grad]

you can actually apply for a top secret clearance, or just a secret clearance. Many DOD contractors will have you get the clearance if it is needed for your job. My work does exactly that.

As for your answer you will probably spend 4-6 years in the Navy getting that training and clearance.

Kobyra

 

[sailorgloom]

Originally posted by jvd626
I'm 24yrs old and have 3years of work experience as a network systems specialist working with firewalls and all that stuff. Any advice would be great thanks.

Just go on with a government contractor if those are your goals. You do know that the Cryptology community is charged with the Computer Network Attack/Defense mission and we work a lot with the National mission.

-SG

 

[bch]

QUOTE "The main reason why I'm joining the navy as an officer in cryptology is I want to get security clearance, leadership, training and then get out as soon as possible..."

If you do not want to be a naval officer DON'T JOIN. there are many other ways to get a clearance. But if you are dead set on joining for that reason... DO NOT TELL ANYONE THAT!!!!!!
I think that you will find that if you join the military for the wrong reasons, you are going to have a real rough tour.

 

[twidget]

jvd626,

As a First Class Petty Officer who came in with no college and busted my @SS to fulfill my obligations to the Navy and the Country while raising a family AND completing a degree, I am personally appalled and ashamed for you. That you would have such shallow, self-serving motivation and be so oblivious to it's nature as to post it here, is a sad commentary on your personal integrity.

If by some cruel chance you are awarded the opportunity to serve as an Officer in the United States Navy, consequently depriving a more deserving applicant of the PRIVELGE, you will learn three words very early in your no-doubt short career:
Honor, Courage, and Commitment

Please reconsider your decision to swindle the Armed Forces, and make room for a person intent on Serving their Country!

"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address
January 20, 1961

 

[vegita1220]

oh god twidget...im getting flashbacks to morning PT with the chiefs...Honor Courage Commitment ONE! HCC TWO! HCC THREE! <shudder>

But yeah, I'm not gonna toot my own horn, but I've seen a LOT of really hardworking motivated guys who want to serve as long as possible in the most dangerous jobs they can find only to get rejected from officer programs while absolute s###bags who want their four years somehow get in. I've also seen some I'll take one year of free schooling with ROTC then get out. Those REALLY piss me off.

 

[quickandsure]

Psychological well being? It might help you, but it sounds doubtful. Sounds like you are so self centered and are lacking a moral compass, little will help. You should not expect miracles. Just my .02.

 

[04Hopeful]

Thank you twidget!!! I think you speak for a lot of us who are trying SO HARD to get in serve our country as a lifetime career and NOT for self serving reasons.

 

[Warlord]

I think you guys would find it even more gratifying if you wanted to do it for self-serving reasons AND to serve your country! What could be better than that? I want to serve my country and feel like I have a meaningful life while AT THE SAME TIME fulfilling my expectations of myself as a pilot. Take it a little easier on some of these people asking simple questions. Some of you guys blow S%&T way to out of proportion. Things are misconstrued when simply read over the net, and not engaged in in actual face to face conversation, but I do agree that you should want be an Officer above and beyond all else.

 

[bch]

Warlord....
There is a differnce in misconstruing something and when the guy says he is only doing this to get the clearance and then get out as soon as possible.

 

[jca320]

Your GPA sounds great but it is just a community college GPA. I had a 3.59 as a computer science major from Community college with 70+ units under my belt before transfer. When talking to the recruiter I was told that all those classes and all that work was for nothing. At the time I was considering the NUPOC program, and just before everything was a go, they threw that at me. How nice.

They only look at the GPA from the 4 year school.

Good Luck.

John

 

[JLH]

Awesome ... just awesome ...

 

[twidget]

Awesome ... just awesome ...

Hey Martha, nice to see a bonafide Cryptology Officer on the board. There are four of us selected for cryptology in the 24 April class (2 CTs, 1 ET(me), and 1 civilian). Mind expanding on your answer a little? What makes it so awesome? How long have you been doing the job and what have you liked (and disliked) so far? I know the first duty station is generally dirsup with a year or so getting qualified, followed by 2 or more deployments to operational units to get your feet wet. If you have done this already, what did you think about your assignment?

Also, what was order selection like coming out of OCS? What were the choices, if you were given choices? Do you know anyone that went to Rota?

Sorry to bombard you, I'm just not familiar with the crypto world yet, and CT officers are hard to come by on an aviation forum. :icon_mi_1

Thanks in advance for any info you can provide!

(Whoops, just read your profile, so I know you went through last year)