manofstyle04
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@surf3001x so I’m new to this still but why did you choose IP instead of the others?
@surf3001x so I’m new to this still but why did you choose IP instead of the others?
Exactly what @devilbones and @surf3001x said there's nothing wrong coming in as 01 and getting selected is an honor and privilege enough regardless of grade you got picked at. While I don't know the criteria the board uses for selection, the only brief info my OR shared with me on my package was the panel interview feedback ranging from 9-10 for all three- which I was surprised and grateful for. I came in as 02. Here's my stat. might give you an idea:@surf3001x i don’t find anything wrong with it as well. I have put my application in for Crypto and intel
Pros of CWO:
Dedicated training money to get the basic qual
Cons of CWO:
Not likely to be selected higher than O-1, based strictly on previous boards to date; don't have the final list from the most recent board in hand yet
Just a nugget for those on the fence about CWO vs INTEL/IP (with perspective on advanced standing)-
CWO has a special pot of training money allocated to each member for 1x use that covers a trip to Colorado (90 days) to work towards your Basic Qual (the 1815 portion). Seems odd, until you realize the amount of classified stuff that gets crammed into your head (and then required to be synthesized/regurgitated). INTEL/IP don't get this (not sure if that's good/bad, just different). If you get selected for CWO as an O-2 or even O-3, no one is going to cut you any slack on the learning curve. You're gonna be expected to do the same DIVO/DH role (~Company Commander level for the Army folks in the room) while working on quals against a timeline. To top it all off, as an O-3, you already in the grinder trying to build enough competitive 'paper' before the O-4 board.
Pros of CWO:
Dedicated training money to get the basic qual
Cons of CWO:
Not likely to be selected higher than O-1, based strictly on previous boards to date; don't have the final list from the most recent board in hand yet
Pros of IP
Possible for selection up to O-3
Pros of INTEL
Over half the slots of any given board go to INTEL
Cons of INTEL
Way too many people apply for INTEL without understanding what they really do, and ensuring that they are truly qualified. A degree in "International Relations/Studies/Strategic Management" alone won't do it.
Have I missed something? Likely, but it's been a long day...
Happy to have a back/forth on this.
Pros of INTEL
Over half the slots of any given board go to INTEL
Cons of INTEL
Way too many people apply for INTEL without understanding what they really do, and ensuring that they are truly qualified. A degree in "International Relations/Studies/Strategic Management" alone won't do it.
Just a nugget for those on the fence about CWO vs INTEL/IP (with perspective on advanced standing)-
CWO has a special pot of training money allocated to each member for 1x use that covers a trip to Colorado (90 days) to work towards your Basic Qual (the 1815 portion). Seems odd, until you realize the amount of classified stuff that gets crammed into your head (and then required to be synthesized/regurgitated). INTEL/IP don't get this (not sure if that's good/bad, just different). If you get selected for CWO as an O-2 or even O-3, no one is going to cut you any slack on the learning curve. You're gonna be expected to do the same DIVO/DH role (~Company Commander level for the Army folks in the room) while working on quals against a timeline. To top it all off, as an O-3, you already in the grinder trying to build enough competitive 'paper' before the O-4 board.
Pros of CWO:
Dedicated training money to get the basic qual
Cons of CWO:
Not likely to be selected higher than O-1, based strictly on previous boards to date; don't have the final list from the most recent board in hand yet
Pros of IP
Possible for selection up to O-3
Pros of INTEL
Over half the slots of any given board go to INTEL
Cons of INTEL
Way too many people apply for INTEL without understanding what they really do, and ensuring that they are truly qualified. A degree in "International Relations/Studies/Strategic Management" alone won't do it.
Have I missed something? Likely, but it's been a long day...
Happy to have a back/forth on this.
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Just a nugget for those on the fence about CWO vs INTEL/IP (with perspective on advanced standing)-
CWO has a special pot of training money allocated to each member for 1x use that covers a trip to Colorado (90 days) to work towards your Basic Qual (the 1815 portion). Seems odd, until you realize the amount of classified stuff that gets crammed into your head (and then required to be synthesized/regurgitated). INTEL/IP don't get this (not sure if that's good/bad, just different). If you get selected for CWO as an O-2 or even O-3, no one is going to cut you any slack on the learning curve. You're gonna be expected to do the same DIVO/DH role (~Company Commander level for the Army folks in the room) while working on quals against a timeline. To top it all off, as an O-3, you already in the grinder trying to build enough competitive 'paper' before the O-4 board.
Pros of CWO:
Dedicated training money to get the basic qual
Cons of CWO:
Not likely to be selected higher than O-1, based strictly on previous boards to date; don't have the final list from the most recent board in hand yet
Pros of IP
Possible for selection up to O-3
Pros of INTEL
Over half the slots of any given board go to INTEL
Cons of INTEL
Way too many people apply for INTEL without understanding what they really do, and ensuring that they are truly qualified. A degree in "International Relations/Studies/Strategic Management" alone won't do it.
Have I missed something? Likely, but it's been a long day...
Happy to have a back/forth on this.
We had a brief at ODS about some of this ..intel is 200%+ manning for ensigns but they have a ton of folks leave at LT (end of contract) so they stack ensigns to help fill it out. The selection for 0-4 is pretty rough, most sew on around year 14..0-5 is very rough.