For the new folks, this is why we do not speculate on mishaps...

[Flash]

Dumb question time, why the hell was the command/s posting stuff on Facebook and in the press before informing the affected families? Aren't the PAOs not supposed to make anything public until after notification or am I missing something? I certainly hope the ship has fixed its Facebok posting policy and the lesson spread amongst the fleet.

 

[Pags]

Dumb question time, why the hell was the command/s posting stuff on Facebook and in the press before informing the affected families? Aren't the PAOs not supposed to make anything public until after notification or am I missing something? I certainly hope the ship has fixed its Facebok posting policy and the lesson spread amongst the fleet.

I had the same question; I'd be curious to know where in the process it was decided it was OK to post this before the CACO team had been able to contact the NOK.

 

[robav8r]

Thread resurrection to remind some folks about why we police ourselves so strictly following a mishap. Please consider applying the same principles to your other social media outlets.

This was a great post - thanks for sharing !

 

[Gatordev]

I told them I already knew [that there had been a mishap with HSC-6] and that I saw the news on Facebook. I had known for hours. They looked at me in disbelief.

Seriously, how do we (as a service) embrace this so freely when this happens...continually. I'm sure the PAO got the sign off, but doesn't anyone in the process confirm the CACO process? Obviously I have my answer.

 

[Gatordev]

Whoops, Pags and Flash beat me to the punch.

 

[707guy]

Definitely some issues with timing on this. No excuse for the miscues of course. I wonder if the time difference between the ship/NOK locations had anything to do with this? Social media can be a great tool - as long as it is used the right way.

 

[villanelle]

Definitely some issues with timing on this. No excuse for the miscues of course. I wonder if the time difference between the ship/NOK locations had anything to do with this? Social media can be a great tool - as long as it is used the right way.

IIRC, when Teresa was notified, the other family involved still hadn't been informed, and weren't for many hours after she had her first CACO visit. I think the other family was spending the day at a theme park or something like that, and couldn't be reached. So it wasn't like there was a brief window where the ship was ahead of the game. It was hours and hours and hours ahead of when all the affected families were notified.

 

[Recovering LSO]

The team onboard the ship failed. Some of them failed while trying to do their best in a horrible situation, and that can be forgiven. Others failed because they don't get it, didn't ask, or don't care - that can't be so easily forgiven.

By the way - that blog post should be required reading at Command Leadership School and the Senior Listed Academy. It should be a mandatory read & initial item in every ready room. It should also be force fed to the Wives Cults, err, Clubs across the fleet.

 

[xmid]

One of the many things that pisses me off in this situation (which is very personal for me) was that it took so long to inform the family. Without getting in to the details, they knew the pilots were deceased within 5 minutes and the "search" was somewhat of a formality at that point. How come it took so long to notify the family that anything had happened let alone that they believed they were deceased?