Can't speak to USN, but last time the numbers came up in a brief, something like 55% of Marine SNAs will select V-22s. That isn't to say that you can be a bag of ass and expect to be handed it, because every now and then a weird selection week will happen where there are 3 Marines selecting who all want either C-130s or V-22s for those sweet, sweet multi-engine hours, and there are 0 C-130 slots (pretty typical) and only 2 V-22 slots. I know a guy from my TBS company who got drafted into helicopters because of that.Alright, I'll bite, how competitive would it be for someone who wanted to go 22s...in the USN and USMC?
That's what I thought, too, but someone in whatever section of the FAA that handles these rules posted on the /r/flying subreddit that V-22 time is now counted as AMEL. It's a very recent change, like December or January going by the comment.^ V-22 is not airplane multiengine land and currently many airlines do not accept it. It is powered lift.
0 C-130 slots
I just searched the FAA website and other .gov websites and can find nothing on this.That's what I thought, too, but someone in whatever section of the FAA that handles these rules posted on the /r/flying subreddit that V-22 time is now counted as AMEL. It's a very recent change, like December or January going by the comment.
Even Delta's page on Pilot Qualifications says they'll count 90% of powered lift (AV-8, F-35B, V-22) hours as AMEL, so either it's up to the employer to be more or less restrictive, or that's a little detail of the regulation change that the guy failed to include.
The snark is pretty unnecessary, but whatever. There's a reason this site and its users have a certain reputation.I just searched the FAA website and other .gov websites and can find nothing on this.
I found the recent FAA change milcomp for V-22 pilots will give both a Commercial Powered Kift and Commercial AMEL. This is because V-22 pipeline includes T-44 time.
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The ATP AMEL (which is required by law for 121 employment) still specifically states minimum AMEL requirements and does not say anything about powered lift. Powered Lift dies count toward the the 1500 total time requirement (as does helo time) but not toward the specific hour requirements.
There is nothing in the FARs changing the definition of airplane flight time to include powered lift.
Delta does now allow powered lift toward their 1000 turbine limit @ 90% but that makes sense as a V-22 has a turbine engine. But if you read the rest of their criteria, it says ATP mins in the category (airplane) and 250 PIC in category (airplane) and 50 AMEL. It also says the FARs specifically exclude powered lift from counting towards these requirements.
V-22 is NOT AMEL and should not be logged as such.
Delta allowing powered lift for their total time minimums is not a FAA/FAR change. It is an internal company decision. Similarly my airline has allowed helo time towards total time minimums for years. So do regional airlines.
The bottom line is V-22 (and AV-8B or F-35B) is not “sure thing” for airline minimums like the C-130, F/A-18, etc.
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