True - but most Americans don't have to justify why they were discharged because they couldn't maintain physical readiness standards either.That would seem to suck…since most Americans never, ever have to take a PRT of any sort…and I doubt are ever queried…
This is a vicious circle of non-logic:True - but most Americans don't have to justify why they were discharged because they couldn't maintain physical readiness standards either.
Gents - have heard that Sailors being discharged for 3 PRT failures will incur higher health care cost ( ACA) because of their characterization of service. Anyone have any gouge/references they can share?
Non-logic? Yep, like a lot of things in DoD these days. I'm still researching this, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's going on. Combat wounded veterans aside, first tour fat bodies that aren't paying attention to where DoD is going with health care and PRT standards might want to put down the xBox controller for a bit. But, I'll report back on what I learn definitively . . .. .This is a vicious circle of non-logic:
1. VOLUNTEER to serve your nation in a time of war when no one HAS to do so: That's a good thing.
2. Get discharged for PRT failure…well, now…that's a very bad thing…and it'll cost you.
3. Never do either: You're good to go, and you'll never be asked or tested or questioned…because that would just be so wrong...
What's the message here? It seems to me it's a negative message…and I'm wondering what the "upside" is…except for the ACA insurance companies. They pick up a "free" pre-screen from the military based on very laudable intentions. Doesn't work for me...
I'll be interested to learn what you learn…since no one else in this wide-body society we live in has to do/prove/volunteer/take an oath/go through Recruit Training/deploy x several/work in arduous conditions/perform shitty duties or physically test for ANYTHING.Non-logic? Yep, like a lot of things in DoD these days. I'm still researching this, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's going on. Combat wounded veterans aside, first tour fat bodies that aren't paying attention to where DoD is going with health care and PRT standards might want to put down the xBox controller for a bit. But, I'll report back on what I learn definitively . . .. .
But WHY are only the military affected…which is the (perhaps erroneous) message I'm getting here? If we were going to rope/choke every person applying for ACA..or make them run some sort of mundane fitness test…it would make more sense. The message I can't swallow is that ex-military get singled out…because of "documentation"....are they going to incur higher health care costs because of the myriad maladies GENERALLY associated with being overweight and out of shape?
Yes, I know the rope/choke is very unscientific and many Sailors that fail it are in fact not in horrible shape, but if we're speaking in generalities - most of the folks who are failing three BCAs are probably creeping up on hypertension, high cholesterol, pre-diabetic.
Are the alleged high health care costs BECAUSE of the failures or because of side affects of being in the kind of shape that fails. I think there is a big difference.
Because we're an easy target with official documentation that says we couldn't stay fit. And don't think this isn't happening in other areas of DoD healthcare like PTSD cases and TBI. The military is very good at documenting everything that is "wrong" with its members. Why wouldn't those in society who gain to profit from this not capitalize on it?But WHY are only the military affected…which is the (perhaps erroneous) message I'm getting here?
You know…and you can call me "old school"…because you'd be EXACTLY correct…but I think that society/congress/legal structures owe something…maybe little things…but SOMETHING…to those who raised their hand at a point in time when:Because we're an easy target with official documentation that says we couldn't stay fit. And don't think this isn't happening in other areas of DoD healthcare like PTSD cases and TBI. The military is very good at documenting everything that is "wrong" with its members. Why wouldn't those in society who gain to profit from this not capitalize on it?
Totally failed to understand my point.Rewarding inglorious fat bodies with the same health care/benefits as the MoH recipient who did his job seems disingenuous to me.
Pickle
Ahh, damn, reread it...you're right...Totally failed to understand my point.