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The problem with the old Dune movie was poor lighting. To set a mood the director used darkness and it failed him…most of that movie is visually impossible to follow. Star Wars has the right idea, dark backgrounds with well lit scenes. We’ll see how this one works but I go watch.![]()
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Poor lighting was the only problem? Not Sting? Not milking a cat? Not the weirding device? Not Patrick Stewart with a pug? Sure all this stuff is what makes it a cult movie but it's why it was never the great movie it should have been from the book. I'm not sure why someone decided that given the weird source material of the book and then said , "let's double down and make it even weirder and unapproachable" other than it's Lynch and that's kind of his thing.The problem with the old Dune movie was poor lighting. To set a mood the director used darkness and it failed him…most of that movie is visually impossible to follow. Star Wars has the right idea, dark backgrounds with well lit scenes. We’ll see how this one works but I go watch.
I am humbled by your far deeper, penetrating analysis. And yes, you are more than right.Poor lighting was the only problem? Not Sting? Not milking a cat? Not the weirding device? Not Patrick Stewart with a pug? Sure all this stuff is what makes it a cult movie but it's why it was never the great movie it should have been from the book. I'm not sure why someone decided that given the weird source material of the book and then said , "let's double down and make it even weirder and unapproachable" other than it's Lynch and that's kind of his thing.
The problem with the old Dune movie was poor lighting. To set a mood the director used darkness and it failed him…most of that movie is visually impossible to follow. Star Wars has the right idea, dark backgrounds with well lit scenes. We’ll see how this one works but I go watch.
It's also coming out in an era where classic sci-fi/fantasy stories not called "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" are now accepted mainstream entertainment. Meaning the studio has an incentive to treat the story well. In the 80s, you probably had some studio exec born in the 1930s going "WTF is this bizarre nerd shit? Go ahead and make it an arthouse film; it'll never sell anyway."Poor lighting was the only problem? Not Sting? Not milking a cat? Not the weirding device? Not Patrick Stewart with a pug? Sure all this stuff is what makes it a cult movie but it's why it was never the great movie it should have been from the book. I'm not sure why someone decided that given the weird source material of the book and then said , "let's double down and make it even weirder and unapproachable" other than it's Lynch and that's kind of his thing.
Except they knew they had a best-selling book that had been well regarded for years at that point and intended to make a "star wars for adults."It's also coming out in an era where classic sci-fi/fantasy stories not called "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" are now accepted mainstream entertainment. Meaning the studio has an incentive to treat the story well. In the 80s, you probably had some studio exec born in the 1930s going "WTF is this bizarre nerd shit? Go ahead and make it an arthouse film; it'll never sell anyway."
Dino DeLaurentis also made Blue Velvet, Flash Gordon, and several Stephen King adaptations, so he was no stranger to Lynch or kitchy sci-fi/thriller genre.In the 80s, you probably had some studio exec born in the 1930s going "WTF is this bizarre nerd shit? Go ahead and make it an arthouse film; it'll never sell anyway."
Except they knew they had a best-selling book that had been well regarded for years at that point and intended to make a "star wars for adults."
True, but I still feel like it's only relatively recently that genre fiction has gotten the "we're going to treat this seriously" treatment from the entertainment industry machine. I think it's been Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies that got sci-fi/fantasy's foot in the door in the mainstream, and Game of Thrones that really sealed the deal. It's not that Hollywood didn't recognize the moneymaking potential, but that they'd still feel like meddling in the script, or doing weird things a la 80s Dune, because it was ultimately "just kids' stuff or nerds' stuff with rocketships and fairies and orcs," and not worth taking seriously from an artistic perspective.Dino DeLaurentis also made Blue Velvet, Flash Gordon, and several Stephen King adaptations, so he was no stranger to Lynch or kitchy sci-fi/thriller genre.
If you haven't already, look at some of "the making of" content for Alien (all on YT), particularly David Giler's commentary, to get a sense of how much tinkering and rewriting Dan O'Bannon's script went through. Ultimately they got it right and we got Alien instead of something closer to Dark Star.True, but I still feel like it's only relatively recently that genre fiction has gotten the "we're going to treat this seriously" treatment from the entertainment industry machine. I think it's been Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies that got sci-fi/fantasy's foot in the door in the mainstream, and Game of Thrones that really sealed the deal. It's not that Hollywood didn't recognize the moneymaking potential, but that they'd still feel like meddling in the script, or doing weird things a la 80s Dune, because it was ultimately "just kids' stuff or nerds' stuff with rocketships and fairies and orcs," and not worth taking seriously from an artistic perspective.
Yeah, for anyone who's either finished Wheel of Time or doesn't care about spoilers, there's an interesting article about how it started out. Jordan was a helo door gunner and Vietnam combat vet turned Navy civilian nuke after the war. And the original plan he had was "George R.R. Martin on acid." Probably for the better that it got some tweaking, because WTF was that insanity?If you haven't already, look at some of "the making of" content for Alien (all on YT), particularly David Giler's commentary, to get a sense of how much tinkering and rewriting Dan O'Bannon's script went through. Ultimately they got it right and we got Alien instead of something closer to Dark Star.
It has an ending?Yeah, for anyone who's either finished Wheel of Time
There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time . . . but it has an ending.It has an ending?