TOS, if written by good lawyers, are generally considered to be legally binding and similar in nature to a contract between the service provider and the individual. Both parties have agreed to play by the rules in the TOS. I'd assume that twitter has at least a few very good lawyers.
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Data as an instrument of war
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Twitter Says State Sen. Doug Mastriano's Account Was Suspended in 'Error'
Reacting to the ban, Trump compared the actions of Twitter with those of a communist country, and said the social network's decision could not stand.
www.newsweek.com
GOP Senate candidate Sam Brown fires back at Twitter as tech giant admits his account was banned by 'mistake'
Republican Senate candidate and retired Army Capt. Sam Brown is firing back at Twitter after he woke up Monday morning to see that his account was "permanently suspended," which Twitter has since acknowledged was an error.
Twitter bans conservative author Alex Berenson
Twitter has banned conservative author Alex Berenson due to violations of its COVID-19 misinformation rules, the social media giant confirmed on Sunday. “The account was permanently …
thehill.com
You Can’t Say That on Twitter | National Review
Let’s face it: Threats, vile abuse, and harassment have become a key part of Twitter’s brand, but only a select few offenders are punished or banned.
www.nationalreview.com
Why Twitter Allows The Taliban To Maintain Accounts On Its Platform
Twitter Inc. (NYSE: TWTR) has announced that that Taliban spokesmen will be able to maintain accounts on its social media platform as long as they abide by the terms of service and do not use their tweets to advocate violence.
www.benzinga.com
The freakin Taliban is on Twitter, man. If they don’t incite violence, who does? Don’t let overpaid Silicon Valley lawyers fool you: If the company selectively enforces or not enforces its TOS, and their record of behavior betrays a bias, it has no legal or moral footing to stand on.
Just imagine what would happen to a bar that allowed shirtless white patrons to sidestep not complying with a “no shirt, no shoes, no service” store policy - but routinely denied service to shirtless nonwhite patrons requesting the same leeway, citing violation of store policy as its reason. That bar would be closed and/or sued so fast, and I’d be the first person telling the bartender out loud that I won’t tolerate racism.
Again, TOS is fairy dust, and if it’s selectively enforced in a deliberately biased way, people see through that, and that’s not what we stand for in America.
Just imagine what would happen to a bar that allowed shirtless white patrons to sidestep not complying with a “no shirt, no shoes, no service” store policy - but routinely denied service to shirtless nonwhite patrons requesting the same leeway, citing violation of store policy as its reason. That bar would be closed and/or sued so fast, and I’d be the first person telling the bartender out loud that I won’t tolerate racism.
Again, TOS is fairy dust, and if it’s selectively enforced in a deliberately biased way, people see through that, and that’s not what we stand for in America.
Twitter is allowed to make their own determination as to what they stand for. I agree that inconsistently applied TOSs is a bad optic but that's up to Twitter to decide and then individuals to fight via the courts. That's how contractual disputes between individuals and companies are settled ("People do not win people fights. Lawyers do.")
Twitter doesn't deny account creation based on race, religion, creed, etc...but they will turn off accounts that they have determined have violated their TOS. Since it's their TOS it's up to them to police.
Are you sure about that?
Gay wedding cake ruling reaffirms that businesses can't discriminate | CNN
The Supreme Court narrowly ruled in favor of bakery owner Jack Phillips, but it did not rule that the Constitution grants the right to discriminate, Vanita Gupta says.
Permissible use of corporate/labor resources and facilities by party committees - FEC.gov
Information for party committees regarding the use of corporate or labor facilities, use of corporate or labor resources, in-kind contributions, facilitation, facilitating the making of a contribution, and restricted class communications by corporations and labor organizations
www.fec.gov
Wow, great timing. Would love to hear someone try to defend this:
www.businessinsider.com
Apple took down a Quran app and a Bible app in China on the request of Chinese officials
Apple told the BBC that Chinese officials had complained that the Quran and Bible apps broke laws on hosting illegal religious texts.
www.businessinsider.com
Right, and Twitter hasn't denied services. They've turned off people who haven't played by the rules that were set forth in the contract. There's a difference there.Are you sure about that?
“The [supreme] court did not rule that the Constitution grants the right to discriminate but maintained the longstanding principle that business owners cannot deny equal access to goods and services.”Gay wedding cake ruling reaffirms that businesses can't discriminate | CNN
The Supreme Court narrowly ruled in favor of bakery owner Jack Phillips, but it did not rule that the Constitution grants the right to discriminate, Vanita Gupta says.www.cnn.com
If they tip the scales of political speech, ideas, candidates, or figures, they begin running afoul of election laws.Permissible use of corporate/labor resources and facilities by party committees - FEC.gov
Information for party committees regarding the use of corporate or labor facilities, use of corporate or labor resources, in-kind contributions, facilitation, facilitating the making of a contribution, and restricted class communications by corporations and labor organizations
You might want to go review the cake case again. The case was decided in favor of the baker but on very narrow grounds and didn't really answer the question your purporting that it did: "Justice Anthony M. Kennedy’s majority opinion turned on the argument that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, which originally ruled against the baker, had been shown to be hostile to religion because of the remarks of one of its members."
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take from the fec.gov link or where your argument is supported in there.
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Apple made a local business decision in line with local rules. In other news, Ford sells cars in England with right hand drive. Apple is not The Voice of America.Wow, great timing. Would love to hear someone try to defend this:
Apple took down a Quran app and a Bible app in China on the request of Chinese officials
Apple told the BBC that Chinese officials had complained that the Quran and Bible apps broke laws on hosting illegal religious texts.
After all this angst, what is your desired end state? What would you like to see these companies do? Tell China they're an American company with American values and lose that market? What interest would Apple have in doing that?
Something like this for the 21st century:
They get to live on a planet where China does not become the rulemaker for all of humanity.
Swing, and a miss. Has the Taliban posted a tweet that violates the TOS? If not, then they're in compliance. You seem to have difficulty understanding this concept, unless you think that Jack Dorsey is somehow an ideological proponent of the Taliban.
Your predilection for irrelevancy in this discussion belies a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues that you seem to be mindlessly parroting from Breitbart-like sources you apparently subsist on.
Pro Tip: You can add "overpaid Silicon Valley lawyers " to your list of phrases to avoid. My Right-wing buzzword bingo card is filling up.
I get that you want a fight like the Cold War but I just don't think the stakes are the same with China. A better historical corollary might be Imperial Germany.Something like this for the 21st century:
They get to live on a planet where China does not become the rulemaker for all of humanity.
I also can't imagine that Apple has much reason to challenge the sovereignty of China over what's in the app store in China. I also think there was a lot more that contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union. One could easily make a case that allowing western businesses into Russia opened their eyes to what they were missing out on. McDonald's in Moscow was a huge deal.
You called me a right winger with extremist views years ago. I’m not one. But you did already punch that bingo card before this discussion.
Shipmate, I can only react to what you provide to us on this forum. Thus far, you're walking and talking like a duck. Everyone is redeemable, though, so I'll hold out hope for your eventual salvation.
Remember when Twitter suspended the New York Post for daring to expose the current president’s involvement with his son’s criminal enterprise? I remember.
www.businessinsider.com
It’s been a rough thread for Pags and Brett. Hard to watch the awful goaltending.
I bet Twitter would have tried to suppress evidence of a republican candidate’s sister in law screwing crackhead son’s business dealings right before an election. Because TOS.
Jack Dorsey says the New York Post Twitter account will remain locked until it deletes the original tweet featuring its Hunter Biden story
Dorsey spoke during a committee hearing on Section 230, the law that states tech firms cannot be held liable for content published on their platforms.
www.businessinsider.com
It’s been a rough thread for Pags and Brett. Hard to watch the awful goaltending.
I bet Twitter would have tried to suppress evidence of a republican candidate’s sister in law screwing crackhead son’s business dealings right before an election. Because TOS.
One day in the not too distant future, we will possibly face a shooting war with an adversary far more capable and lethal than AQ, IS, and the Taliban. On that day, there will be US tech companies that are providing (and unless stopped by a responsible adult in the US govt, will continue to provide) valuable aid and materiel support to the enemy in the form of data and data control.