Can they, though? Where might one’s local a chevron station owner get ahold of one of these relics?Temporary portable mechanical pumps can be set up in minutes.
Can they, though? Where might one’s local a chevron station owner get ahold of one of these relics?Temporary portable mechanical pumps can be set up in minutes.
On my grandpappies farm we used something like this…cost about $2500.Can they, though? Where might one’s local a chevron station owner get ahold of one of these relics?
Don't be dense. I never said you would use the original gas pump. You would, if you could find one? They are for sale everyday. I was clear enough. But mechanical hand pumps like I envisioned are all over the internet, in any large city and probably some small rural towns. Suffice it to say, gasoline would not stay in gas station tanks for long if people really needed it. My point being. It is easier to retrieve gas from storage to fill a vehicle than it is to manually generate electricity to charge a car. Temporary solution to be sure, but doable. Charging you Tesla with a bicycle powered generator is not.Can they, though? Where might one’s local a chevron station owner get ahold of one of these relics?
You can fill the tank of a Ford F-150 with a mechanical pump a hell of a lot faster then you will charge a Tesla with any variety of mechanical electricity generator. I can imagine a time when that would be important, but can't say I can imagine it actually happening anytime soon.
Don't be dense. I never said you would use the original gas pump. You would, if you could find one? They are for sale everyday. I was clear enough. But mechanical hand pumps like I envisioned are all over the internet, in any large city and probably some small rural towns. Suffice it to say, gasoline would not stay in gas station tanks for long if people really needed it. My point being. It is easier to retrieve gas from storage to fill a vehicle than it is to manually generate electricity to charge a car. Temporary solution to be sure, but doable. Charging you Tesla with a bicycle powered generator is not.
Chuck, my advice is to be wary of the battery life problems that living in the Midwest will incur. Those temperature fluctuations will not only reduce charge duration but also reduce battery life. You're already looking at having to change the battery bank at around the 7 year mark and that's not cheap (Upwards of $20k depending upon where you're sourcing the batteries from). You also have limited options for service/repair providers and will have to pay attention to subscription fees for some of the cooler bells and whistles like Full Self Driving.Any Tesla owners out there? With recent price reductions and the Federal $7500 tax credit good through March 2023, it now seems like a Model 3 RWD is doable at $44K MSRP. We have the cheapest electricity (coal, baby! dig!) here in the fly over states. I've rented a Tesla (Model 3 and Y) from Hertz a number of times and I am sold on the driving experience.
What are the thoughts of AW land on this?
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You can fill the tank of a Ford F-150 with a mechanical pump a hell of a lot faster then you will charge a Tesla with any variety of mechanical electricity generator. I can imagine a time when that would be important, but can't say I can imagine it actually happening anytime soon.
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Mechanical pumps were used into the 1940s at gas stations around the country. All of my uncle's farms had mechanical pumps for fueling tractors and other implements. Temporary portable mechanical pumps can be set up in minutes.
Chuck, my advice is to be wary of the battery life problems that living in the Midwest will incur. Those temperature fluctuations will not only reduce charge duration but also reduce battery life. You're already looking at having to change the battery bank at around the 7 year mark and that's not cheap (Upwards of $20k depending upon where you're sourcing the batteries from). You also have limited options for service/repair providers and will have to pay attention to subscription fees for some of the cooler bells and whistles like Full Self Driving.
This is not to totally dissuade you from EV ownership but so you can go in with both eyes open. Perhaps those compromises work for you when they may not work for someone else.
I've got a 550 gal diesel tank with an hand pump, it will work until the end of time with 0 electricity. It takes about 3 or 4 minutes to hand pump 20 gallons and off you go. My biggest problem is that no one wants to deliver small amounts. I try to never let it go below half, but the suppliers see 250 gallons as almost a nuisance delivery.Some farms still use them. My uncle has a mechanical pump for his diesel tank. Simple, and never breaks.
This! I have researched options for moving the Griz-O-Copter off airfield and the only real challenge is fuel! I can’t get anything less than 1000 gallons delivered and most airfields refuse to sell from the pump into anything but an aircraft.….suppliers see 250 gallons as almost a nuisance delivery.
This! I have researched options for moving the Griz-O-Copter off airfield and the only real challenge is fuel! I can’t get anything less than 1000 gallons delivered and most airfields refuse to sell from the pump into anything but an aircraft.
I agree, but thus far I haven’t found an airport that will allow me to pump 100LL to a transfer tank.Your best bet is a transfer tank with a built-in pump the bed of a pickup truck. I had a buddy growing up whose dad mowed a grass runway on their small farm, and that's how he moved fuel to their Cherokee and C-182 airplanes.
I think there are rules about that. Is there an auto fuel STC for the Griz-o-copter? Car gas would be easier to buy and transport.I agree, but thus far I haven’t found an airport that will allow me to pump 100LL to a transfer tank.
Really? NOVA! Go figure. Last time I put 5 gal of 100LL in a plastic jerry can from the self serve the fuel truck driver walked by and said "boat or tuner ?" When I told him it was for metering in fuel to my plane to make a dip stick, he shrugged. Hauling away fuel in a can for terrestrial use or fueling a plane inside a hangar made no difference to him.I agree, but thus far I haven’t found an airport that will allow me to pump 100LL to a transfer tank.