The Ammo Bay Door on the original Cobras was actually a work stand, so it could handle a couple seated dudes just fine. After riding there became of thing in Vietnam, it may have become a recognized evac seat and maybe even improved for that use.
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Air Force v.s. Navy Culture Differences
- Thread starter druteague
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Having seen a CBRN and SCI today, I'm guessing they may be agency specific. I guess I could just ask.
I may hate myself, but not enough to wear khakis voluntarily!
As a guy who retired in 2014, and came back 2 year ago, "the patch" thing was... interesting. That said, it grew on me. A lot.
When I go out to the flightline, I see a lot of faces... and the patch helps remind me which ones work where... which further reminds me about "who they are" (since I don't see them that often), and helps me make a more personal connection with them.
As long as it doesn't get over the top, I think I like it. The badges everyone wears in the AF on their left breast are impossible to decipher... and simply putting what they do on these new patches allows illiterate pilots like me to appear smarter.
Good lord this must be the loudest seat on earth
No different than flight deck color jerseys/vests. ?????. In a room full of people in a briefing - and everyone is wearing OCP, its easy to see who does what.
Yeah, I get it, I just think it was unnecessary. When I’ve needed maintenance support on the flight line, I always asked my crew chief and he’s called the correct support troop. In the Navy it was DEMOT with the appropriate number of fingers held up.
And while they’ve only been out for a year or so, I’ve yet to be in a situation where I needed a troop and had to rely on the tag on their sleeve to find who I needed. Need PA? He’s probably the guy with the cameras. Mx? It’s that dude wearing the grease stained OCPs. It sort of feels like the ground pounder response to aircrew wearing flight suits and pen tabs.
In the end, the young airmen like them though so really I’m just the old dude yelling at a cloud.
I'm not going to read 14 pages even though I'm sure they're entertaining as hell. I guess I did read far enough to get to "the paragraph". Funny.
Someone explained the difference between flying USAF and US NAVY to me as follows:
When in the Air Force, if "the rules" don't say you can do it, assume you can't.
When in The Navy, if "the rules" don't say you can do it, assume you can.
Not sure if that holds true anymore as it was getting pretty F'ing micro before I left.
Someone explained the difference between flying USAF and US NAVY to me as follows:
When in the Air Force, if "the rules" don't say you can do it, assume you can't.
When in The Navy, if "the rules" don't say you can do it, assume you can.
Not sure if that holds true anymore as it was getting pretty F'ing micro before I left.
Yeah, not so much anymore.
People always ask me which is better, flying with the AF or flying with the Navy. I just reply that the grass isn't greener, it's just a different shade of green.
Wasn't true by the time I left the USN in early 2020. Unfortunately, micromanagement has won the day.
Completing the pre-coourse study for Advanced Instrument School this coming week (in OK City) - and one of the interesting points is contrasting IFR filing regs in AF vs Navy - cofified in AFMAN 11-202V3 and OPNAV 3710.7... the figures are attached for your enjoyment and comparison.
From OPNAV 3710.7:
and its compative table in AFMAN 11-202V3
and this does not include additional AF guidance at MAJCOM level, unit and type level ....
From OPNAV 3710.7:
and its compative table in AFMAN 11-202V3
and this does not include additional AF guidance at MAJCOM level, unit and type level ....
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Have you heard of PWC minimums? It’s a single seat thing the AF does that sets higher than absolute mins based on time in the aircraft. Adds yet another layer to flight planning.