Addressing personnel properly

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Tempest, I'm finding it really hard to believe your stories as stated above. If a Marine tried to correct you for something, I'm thinking there was more to it than you had your sleeves 'rolled wrong', especially since from your tone you sounded like you took great pleasure in showboating your rank to try to shut people up. I will give you that saying "dog" or "dawg" or "doggggggggg" or any word beginning with a 'd' ending with a 'g' and some ah or aw or oh sound in the middle should be reserved for people you know. Sure they didn't say 'devil dog'?

As for me, I avoid drinking fountains...there's too much embellishment and theatrics added to (or relevant details ommitted from) the stories you hear there...

 

[Tempest]

Tempest, I'm finding it really hard to believe your stories as stated above. If a Marine tried to correct you for something, I'm thinking there was more to it than you had your sleeves 'rolled wrong', especially since from your tone you sounded like you took great pleasure in showboating your rank to try to shut people up. I will give you that saying "dog" or "dawg" or "doggggggggg" or any word beginning with a 'd' ending with a 'g' and some ah or aw or oh sound in the middle should be reserved for people you know. Sure they didn't say 'devil dog'?

As for me, I avoid drinking fountains...there's too much embellishment and theatrics added to (or relevant details ommitted from) the stories you hear there...

sometimes it was hey devil, sometimes you get hey dawg/dog, and yes sometimes you get a full "hey devil dog". You are correct in a way. I did get pleasure from it. Not the specific way your talking about. NO, my pleasure was not being the Marine he thought I was. In the military you get chewed out often enough, it is nice when the tyrant has to take a step back. I never had enough rank to showboat, but more than what those Marines were looking for. I would bet they were looking for a new e-0 to harass. Luckly for me that was not the case.

 

[jamnww]

sometimes it was hey devil, sometimes you get hey dawg/dog, and yes sometimes you get a full "hey devil dog". You are correct in a way. I did get pleasure from it. Not the specific way your talking about. NO, my pleasure was not being the Marine he thought I was. In the military you get chewed out often enough, it is nice when the tyrant has to take a step back. I never had enough rank to showboat, but more than what those Marines were looking for. I would bet they were looking for a new e-0 to harass. Luckly for me that was not the case.

I could be wrong but it sounds like you have gotten chewed on a few times and yes it does feel nicer to dish it out than to receive it, ever think though that those Marines felt the same way? Ever think that they thought they were helping someone out who didn't know any better? I don't know the whole situation but perhaps a good way to handle it would be to say, "hey devil dog maybe that how you do it but in my unit we do it this way so nexttime you see it make sure you are talking to a Marine first..." something like that...then again yelling at them and making them feel inferior feels better...

Besides I don't know many junior Marines who are "tyrants", a little full of themselves but hardly tyrants...

 

[Tempest]

I could be wrong but it sounds like you have gotten chewed on a few times and yes it does feel nicer to dish it out than to receive it, ever think though that those Marines felt the same way? Ever think that they thought they were helping someone out who didn't know any better? I don't know the whole situation but perhaps a good way to handle it would be to say, "hey devil dog maybe that how you do it but in my unit we do it this way so nexttime you see it make sure you are talking to a Marine first..." something like that...then again yelling at them and making them feel inferior feels better...
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You are projecting. I never said I chewed any of them out. Never had to. They knew they were wrong the second I turned around or when eventually their eyes landed on the green strip that said NAVY in bold letters. Now I am not saying that they should address new recruits in a nice friendly manner, but they should know who they are addressing before getting into a$$ chewing mode.

My point is in the assumption from behind that they made. Hey dog is not something you call out until you know exactly who your talking to and that they are ok with it. For all he knew I may have been a LTC. Addressing an LTC as dog, devil dawg or the likes seems to be the Marine equivalent of the Army saying "hey man" in a personal conversation.

The more I keep going on this topic...the more it smells of fishing. When I first posted I did not realize it was in a USMC section. To save anyone from further responding...yes I am a huge lier(embelisher), on a power trip, love showboating, have no understanding of the term Devil Dawg, and no understanding of legitimate reasons to chew someone out(or help them) for being in the wrong. A Marine E-4 is not powertriping, just helping out other Marines in need. my appologies.

 

[jamnww]

You are projecting. I never said I chewed any of them out. Never had to. They knew they were wrong the second I turned around or when eventually their eyes landed on the green strip that said NAVY in bold letters. Now I am not saying that they should address new recruits in a nice friendly manner, but they should know who they are addressing before getting into a$$ chewing mode.

My point is in the assumption from behind that they made. Hey dog is not something you call out until you know exactly who your talking to and that they are ok with it. For all he knew I may have been a LTC. Addressing an LTC as dog, devil dawg or the likes seems to be the Marine equivalent of the Army saying "hey man" in a personal conversation.

The more I keep going on this topic...the more it smells of fishing. When I first posted I did not realize it was in a USMC section. To save anyone from further responding...yes I am a huge lier(embelisher), on a power trip, love showboating, have no understanding of the term Devil Dawg, and no understanding of legitimate reasons to chew someone out(or help them) for being in the wrong. A Marine E-4 is not powertriping, just helping out other Marines in need. my appologies.

Ok, like I said before, I could have been wrong all I had to go on was how it was coming across. No one said you were a liar or that the E-4 was not powertripping a bit. You were the one there, the way it came across resulted in the responses you got. Anywho, no harm no foul either way...

 

[Taxman2A]

My point is in the assumption from behind that they made. Hey dog is not something you call out until you know exactly who your talking to and that they are ok with it. For all he knew I may have been a LTC. Addressing an LTC as dog, devil dawg or the likes seems to be the Marine equivalent of the Army saying "hey man" in a personal conversation.

Use of the term "devil dog" or any of it's variations is not the same as the army saying "hey man". What you may or may not know is that "devil dog" or it's variations is a condescending way to address someone to begin with. Two Marines will not address eachother devil dog in casual conversation (unless they are joking), and a Marine would not generally approach another person he does not know and refer to them as "devil dog" unless he is going to correct them. Marines often refer to being called devil dog as being "DD'd", as in "Man, I got DD'd today at the PX".

The conversation I was referring to was between a Capt and Specialist standing around smoking cigarrettes saying things to eachother like "man, did you see the new chowhall they are building", "yeah man that place is going to be great". Conversation like that comes off as civilian and undisdisciplined to me. Now, an Army Captain walking up to a specialist who has his sleeves rolled wrong saying "Hey man, fix yourself", isn't quite as extreme, and is comparable to saying "Hey devil, fix yourself".

 

[Tempest]

Use of the term "devil dog" or any of it's variations is not the same as the army saying "hey man". What you may or may not know is that "devil dog" or it's variations is a condescending way to address someone to begin with. ".

I didn't know that. Well I guess that backs up my condescending statement. I got DD'd :icon_rage . Learn something new every day.

 

[phrogpilot73]

My point is in the assumption from behind that they made. Hey dog is not something you call out until you know exactly who your talking to and that they are ok with it. For all he knew I may have been a LTC. Addressing an LTC as dog, devil dawg or the likes seems to be the Marine equivalent of the Army saying "hey man" in a personal conversation.

Ummm, it's LtCol not LTC. The Army uses three letter abbreviations, not the Marine Corps. Just my pet peeve.