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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Also what is a good OAR for SWO
Be above the below and you will be fine, anything less and you will need a waiver and that attracts bad attention, don't attract bad attention.

(1) Candidates must score a minimum of a 42 on their most recent Officer Aptitude
Rating (OAR) exam.
 
Also, how is the exam scored. And if I am running out of time should I guess. If I don’t know the answer should I guess. Have any test taking tips?
 
Hello y’all,

Just wanted to share the good news and thank everybody in this forum for helping with my results (63 8/7/8)!!! My first attempt was abysmal as I just wanted to get a feel for it, and my second result was 52 6/7/6. Unfortunately I was rejected for Pilot with the 6/7/6, but I’m now waiting for my ISEL approval! It’s been a long journey, but now everything seems to be moving so fast hahah.

It was my third and final attempt, and my nerves got the better of me, so I completely flunked the dichotic listening part (reversed the odd & even buttons), so thank God that I was able to pass for ISEL.

Some vital resources I’d like to relay:
- ASTB Prep App (iPhone AppStore) - Most comprehensive study material I used; it includes explanation for all subsections, including practice for UAV & Terrain. Reading through the math & mechanical & Aviation information helped with my understanding a lot.
- TBAS Study Pro (on Steam) & X52 Joysticks - By far the most helpful practice for the joystick portion. The UAV portion in TBAS is also extremely hard, so if you can manage a 99, you should be good.
- These flashcards are as good as they get. It has pretty much all the information you may need for the ANiT portion. If you understand all the concepts on this list, you should be good: https://www.cram.com/flashcards/astb-aviation-nautical-information-test-anit-comprehensive-4718163
- US Navy Ratings Flashcards: https://quizlet.com/14602973/us-navy-ratings-flash-cards/?i=2ouhtq&x=1jqY
- Terrain Guide: (1)
(2)
The first video helped me out more, but both are very useful in achieving Terrain accuracy and consistency.
- Gomez Drive: a lot of helpful information in these drive. Going through the math worksheets help out a lot: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IxIizps2bu2ljw1bYjFPajWv8RYvLWyv

The single best advice that helped me tremendously is to make reviewing, memorizing, and really **understanding** the material my goal. There were a lot of questions in the Math, Mechanical, and ANiT portions that I’ve never seen before during my reviews, but understanding the basic concepts helped me answer a lot of questions. As for the joysticks and UAV, it’s just repetition. Practice them daily until it’s second nature.

Thank you all again for all the help, and thank God & my fiancée for making this happen. FLY NAVY

P.S. carefully review and write down the instructions for the joystick portion, and don’t make the mistake that I did and confuse what buttons to press for the dichotic or what levels to change for the emergency portion!!!
Did you buy the rudders? Or do you only need the joysticks?
 
Do what ur told, cant bring anything into MEPS. Clear everything up with the physician. Hold your pee for the urinalysis. Itll be boring but youll get through it.
 
Negative just being in a good mood so they don’t try and flag me for any dumb stuff lol
He should have given you a brief as to what to expect and to not be vague at MEPS, such as saying "I don't know", either you do or you don't since if you had an issue you probably would remember.

The other thing is avoid the "mom/dad said I had XXXX when I was young" just because your mom said you sprained your ankle doesn't mean it was actually a sprain unless diagnosed by an actual doctor. I can't tell you over the years how many kids said their mom/dad said they had something when they never did. Only once in over 7 years of recruiting did I have a parent diagnose a kid who actually could, this young man said his dad diagnosed him with a minor concussion from a soccer game, my response was unless your dad is a doctor he was just guessing, well the kids dad was in fact an actual neurologist, then being the good recruiter I was I had the dad write a statement.
 
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If I was a non-select in October (last board) am I required to retake my astb. I understand ISEL is only allowed now until they open back up. If I remember correctly you can resubmit your score after a certain amount of time?
 
If I was a non-select in October (last board) am I required to retake my astb. I understand ISEL is only allowed now until they open back up. If I remember correctly you can resubmit your score after a certain amount of time?

Adding on to this. If there’s anyone who took the ASTB and had a good AQR and bad PFAR and feels stuck. I would love to do a trade in knowledge. I believe I can get anyone to a 9 on the PFAR. I never had any experience in aviation before studying to help me on the PFAR either. Just message me!
 
Hello everyone, took the OAR today and scored a 62. A score that I'm very happy with. I have yet to take the PBM portion, because I decided with my recruiter to take the OAR first and then merge that with the PBM later to get a full ASTB score so I can focus my entire attention on the OAR subjects, then pivot towards the simulator and ANIT to guarantee the best possible scores. This is something that you can do as well, and unless you're time critical I recommend you do to maximize your score.

Now, onto the test.

The OAR begins with a few instructional "powerpoint slides" that guide you through all the test functions and what you can expect. I suggest you take this time to write down any memorized formulas or a multiplication table, hell, even start calculating a table of perfect square and cube roots for use during the exam. If you think it'll save you time, do it during this section.

MATH
For this section, I personally received a wide variety of questions, everything from simple system of equations questions (what is x in x+4-3x=2x+6) to very complicated root and logarithm problems (log8[log10(log16(x))]=1) (root_5((64x^8)(y^16)(z^36)). I also had combinatoric probability, (How many ways can x y and z be ordered) and basic probability (What is the chance that Sam will roll a 9 if he rolls two dice once?) type questions. One exponent question (very basic fractional exponent like 32^2/5). One very long polynomial multiplication question ((2(x+4)^2)^2-4x+2(x+4) all divided by 4), as well as some percentages (Suzie spent 30% of her savings on a new car and then 10% on a speaker, how much of her savings did she spend?). My section ended off with a complicated geometry problem which I guessed on (attachment below).
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Overall, this section seemed harder than some of the practice material on here, maybe that is because I was performing well on it, but I will leave that up to the interpretation of the reader. I had no matrix multiplication, no DRT, no work, and almost no basic word problems akin to what you would see in the 114 Question OAR math guide. My personal suggestion to all of you is STUDY YOUR LOG RULES. My test had me simplify about 4 logarithmic equations, and ALL but one were harder than the log worksheet on either drive. The worksheets and OAR math guide are very good at setting you up for the basics of some of the problems you may encounter, but the test is adaptive, and if you perform well it WILL throw problems much harder than those on the worksheets at you.

But remember, this is just my experience with the test. Yours may be harder, or it may be easier.


READING
Boring, boring, boring, and complicated. I was prepared for the material on this section by reading hundreds of posts just like this one prior to taking the test over my month of studying. This section will give you a paragraph and 4 answer choices. 2 will be blatantly incorrect, one will be almost correct, and one will be correct. Almost all passages will be written in Navy/military jargon, and the best way I can describe it is like reading an informational brochure about some benefit or new program in an institution and being able to derive some implied meaning from it. I really don't think there's any real way to study for this, but the official NAMI ASTB practice pdf actually has some very good practice questions on it. I believe the one regarding the ORM Risk Management was actually on my test haha. It is linked below alongside my other study documents.

MECHANICAL
This section I flew by because all the material was fresh in my mind as I had dedicated the final week of my studying to it. My honest suggestion is 100% invest in the OAR tutoring app (linked below). Almost 10 of my questions came straight from that app or were some derivative of one of the questions asked. Do the MC Lesson homeworks and remember all of the answers and why that answer is true, as some of the questions asked are very similar but not 1:1 and require some thought on your end. On this section I received mostly conceptual questions, but did receive about 4 questions where I had to do some sort of math. Definitely know your formulas for Force (F=ma), Work (W=Fd) Kinetic (KE=1/2mv^2) and Potential (PE=mgh) energy, as well as how to balance and calculate the mechanical advantage for levers, inclined planes, gears, and pulleys. I personally had no questions on gears or pulleys but your test will not be the same as mine so I recommend it nonetheless.



I would once again like to thank the people of this forum for compiling their experiences and creating study material, for my score would not have been possible without your continued participation in this forum. I will be applying for BDCP SNA as soon as I have taken the PBM so I'm not in the clear yet, but the hard part is done. I hope that my post is able to help at least one person in their preparation for this exam, and if I managed a 62 with how stressed I was about this exam, you can too. If you put your mind to it, you can and will overcome.


RESOURCES USED
Hello everyone, following up on this as today I took the full ANIT and PBM and I am extremely pleased at my final scores: 62 9/9/8 LPSS 57. I honestly thought I was going to get away with 7s or maybe even a 6 somewhere, so you can imagine how happy I was when I saw this score on my screen. One message I have to anyone currently studying to take this test is definitely don't be discouraged because of the amount of high scores that people post. I think that thanks to the absolute breadth of information contained in this forum it is much more likely to encounter people that score insanely high here, as opposed to the majority of test-takers. When my proctor said that I had one of the highest aviation scores based on percentile he'd ever seen I was honestly taken aback, as I imagined myself as more upper middle of the pack rather than extraordinary, so if I can do it, with enough tenacity you can as well.

As for the test it was much more straight-forward and unlike the OAR there are ways you can simulate the exam almost in it's entirety, which I will detail afterwards.

The test begins with the ANIT, this section had me answer ~15-20 questions and took me roughly 7-10 minutes to complete. The nautical questions I received pertained to the decks and parts of a ship, and how carriers adapted for bigger, heavier aircraft. The majority (roughly 2/3) of the questions were aviation related. I had questions regarding the control surfaces, primarily the elevator, as well as a large amount of questions regarding the relationship between aircraft weight/AOA and stalling. I was asked to calculate how much fuel would need to be removed if the aircraft was 80 pounds overweight, as well as how much fuel a pilot should take if flying IFR at night at cruising speed. Overall this section was much easier than I anticipated, and I really only guessed on 2 problems, though they were educated guesses rather than a complete shot in the dark.

Afterwards comes the NATFI, I honestly don't know what to say here other than answer truthfully, not every answer choice will be appealing, and that's fine. I honestly don't even know why they make you do this.

Then the PBM starts, beginning with the UAV section. I have heard two approaches to this section, one using the compass trick (link below) and another that opts to just memorizing the directions using flashcards. I approached it using a hybrid method. I practiced using the compass method until I could get each answer in roughly 1.2-2.5 seconds depending on question difficulty. Thanks to that practice I eventually developed muscle memory and 'neuron activation' for certain questions, especially when the UAV was pointing in a cardinal direction (N,S,E,W) as those tend to be the easiest, and I could immediately recognize the answer from my practice and just click it. That worked for me on the test, on some I used the compass and on others I didn't, though I highly recommend learning/using it because anxiety and nerves could get the better of you and to be honest the compass is kind of foolproof. I personally got all UAV questions correct with aforementioned average of 1.2-2.5 seconds and scored a 9. You don't need to have sub 1.5s reaction time to do well.

Vertical Tracking, Tracking, Dichotic Listening, EM Procedures:

Much easier than anticipated. I went hard at the joystick for maybe a week before my test for about 2 hours a day and honestly as long as you're used to the feel and motions of the joystick you don't need to go overkill and practice for months like others on here have. Just my personal opinion.

Vertical tracking was extremely easy, the pip you need to target moved from slow to medium speed, it never went fast and didn't really try and 'juke' me out until I was reaching the end of the joystick portions. I definitely noticed it slowly getting faster and faster as time went on so keep that in mind and don't get complacent.

Same thing for tracking, it was a lot easier than what I expected. Noticed it slowly getting harder as time progressed.

Dichotic listening was where I encountered some difficulty, as I maybe missed 2-3 in both the section where you do it exclusively and the tracking section as well. I thought this would kill my score, but it didn't or I got enough right to where it didn't matter.

Write down the emergency procedures!!!! It is very easy to forget them once you start, unless your memory is just that good. I highly recommend seeing if your procedures have certain settings that are favored for example:

Fire High Low
Eng High Neutral
Prop Low Low

I would preset my knobs to the High and Low position as it makes it so you potentially only have to turn a single knob to solve the procedure. For me they were sequential, but I've seen others say they weren't so just keep that in mind.

Terrain ID

Use the pencil trick!!! This section is easier than TBAS Study Pro and MUCH easier than the ASTB prep app. The maps are much more zoomed in, and although the quality is lacking you should still be able to distinctly make out lines pointing in hard cardinal directions you can use to orient yourself. I only got stumped on a single question where I quickly spat out an answer before I ran out of time.

Practice Material
ANIT: Highly recommend both the CRAM flashcards and Popeye's Flashcards. Both can be found here. I had them 100% memorized thanks to ANKI, DO NOT SKIMP OUT!!! The day of the test I quickly went through all ~500 flashcards I had made to make sure I knew each and every one of them by memory. Many of these flashcards are not verbatim, so the questions you may receive on the test differ in wording but the concepts do not change. Knowing the flashcards and having decent critical thinking skills should be more than enough for this section.

UAV, Terrain ID: I used a mixture of TBAS Study Pro and the ASTB Prep App. For the UAV section the test is more similar graphically to TBAS and functionally to the prep app. The UAV section in TBAS is harder than that of the real test, so if you can ace it in TBAS you will do fine on the real thing. I mainly used TBAS for my PBM study, but the choice is ultimately up to you.

For Terrain ID I recommend using the prep app more than TBAS. It is much harder than the test so if you can do well on it you will do well on the test. TBAS is much closer to the real thing (maybe a little harder) but on this section I recommend studying for difficulty rather than volume as your eyes will have to scan the screen and identify straight lines FAST!

Vertical Tracking, Tracking, Dichotic Listening, EM Procedures: I used exclusively TBAS for this section. I barely touched Jantzen's sim, specifically because of the inaccuracy of the listening. On the real thing you have to listen to a target ear and BOTH even and odd from that ear. TBAS in my opinion is a much better resource in preparing you for the PBM. When you practice I recommend using speed 3, as the real thing is more like speed 2, as well as doing FULL PBM exams on TBAS, instead of just practicing specific things.

With all that being said here are my final stats:
Major: Biology
GPA: 3.7
ASTB: 62 9/9/8 LPSS 57
I studied for 1 1/2 months for the OAR, 4 times a week 2-3 hours
3 weeks for PBM ~3 hours a day, flashcards on ANKI, several full PBM practice tests on TBAS
 

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Newer to the forum and have tried to read as my pages as possible from the recent years. When it comes to putting a packet together, what all goes into that? Does a PT test have to be completed before submitting a packet? Also, medical wise I have previous SSRI use as a teenager (stopped at 18 and am 26 now). 8 years without and just got out of the Army National Guard (15T, Blackhawk mechanic/crew chief). Wondering if there would be any issues there? Thanks in advance!
 
They only have 3 ASTB versions, I have only heard of 1 person getting a retake and that was I believe due to the administrator not following (violating) the administration procedures. That is the only time I have ever heard of a retake, maybe you will get lucky or maybe the PBM will increase your score so it is good enough?

The ASTB is 100% not waiverable, they have even at one point increased the minimum scores to 6 for the FOFAR and PFAR, those that had qualifying scores prior to the change were allowed to go to board if they had submitted, if they hadn't they were no longer qualified.

STA-21 is a bit different and applying core makes sense. When all other things are equal that ASTB will be a factor. You are correct STA-21 does have its own quotas for pilots so you are only competing against those applying STA-21 I wasn't implying they would compete against OCS applicants.

You just have to be commissioned by age 32 for SNA. URL ISPP is a program where you just need to have a degree, no waivers, and minimum ASTB scores then you are essentially automatically processed for OCS, you just need the first flag in your COC to endorse you.

Getting into core STA-21 might be another option in hopes they put out new versions of the ASTB, it is about that time.
l have news... system completely failed.. re take granted & test voided. Now to scroll through this thread and find a way to crush this final attempt! Unicorns exist lol
 
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