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FloridaExport

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ChrisF11 said:
How can I set that up? I just ordered my X52 but noticed my Macbook Pro only has USB-C ports. Will I need to get a USB adapter to hook up the X52?
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Buy yourself one of these any of them will do just make sure that it has good reviews and it has a USB port for the X52.

To set it up just make sure you have Jantzen and the DLT exercise of the ASTB app open at the same time. It will be a bit of back and forth but the timer on the ASTB app will give you enough time to switch back and start the Jantzen sim. If you need I’ll make you a video and PM it.
 
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JRDrezzoo

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Cono said:
Took the ASTB today for the first time, scored 60 7/7/7.
I’m a Physics major about to graduate in December, and I’m hoping my score is enough to offset my 2.8 GPA. Thank you to everyone who has posted on this thread — I couldn't have done it without you!

MST:
I mainly used the Gomez and Kyle drives to study. I came across questions involving exponents, fractions, probabilities, and geometry problems. One question required calculating the area of a ring-shaped track based on a given interior area and track thickness. That's mainly what I remember — I got kicked out of the section with around 12 minutes left, so pace is important.

RST:
I didn’t study this one much — I used the ASTB app and the reading sections in the Barron’s book. I mainly tried to eliminate answer choices that were clearly wrong. This section took me the longest, and I ran out of time before finishing.

MCT:
This section was mostly conceptual. I used the Kyle and Gomez drives, along with the ASTB prep app. Topics included pulleys, springs, balance/torque problems, basic physics laws, and force/work concepts. I finished with about 4 minutes to spare.

ANIT:
I have no flight experience so I was worried about this section. I started with the Barron’s book, used the Cram cards, ASTB prep app, and practice tests from Kyle and Gomez. I got questions about aircraft components, flight instruments, and basic nautical knowledge. Some I didn’t know, but I guessed and moved on. I finished in probably 5 minutes.

UAV:
Just practice with the ASTB prep app — it’s essentially the same format. Sometimes it didn’t call out the direction, and I had to look, which slowed me down a bit. I think I got a couple wrong but finished fairly quickly.

Terrain Association:
Very similar to the ASTB Prep app, maybe even a bit easier. My strategy was to identify a straight edge or reference line and use that to orient myself on the left screen. That helped a lot.

PBM:
I used an X52 and the updated Jantzen sim to practice — the actual test felt very similar. One area I lost points was during the emergency procedures: I accidentally skipped part of the instructions and didn’t know what to do at first. Luckily I had written down one of the sample procedures earlier, so I managed to go 1 out of 3 on emergencies.
The dichotic listening portion was very similar to the Jantzen sim and the prep app, though the headset audio quality wasn’t great — I had trouble telling if I was hearing “8” or “H” at times.

Anyway, that’s my little info dump. I hope it helps some of you like other posts helped me. Good luck to everyone preparing!
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do you remember any more example questions from the math section that you could provide?
 
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Cono

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JRDrezzoo said:
do you remember any more example questions from the math section that you could provide?
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I had a question where I was given a bunch of fractions with different denominators and asked to find the smallest, I remember one where a girl rolls a die and draws a certain card suit from a deck and you have to calculate the probability of both events occurring, i remember one where it was like x to a power divided by x to a larger power, I also had a log base a number of x plus a number equals a number and you had to solve for x. tbh those are the only memorable ones, Hope this helps.
 
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ChrisF11

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FloridaExport said:
Buy yourself one of these any of them will do just make sure that it has good reviews and it has a USB port for the X52.

To set it up just make sure you have Jantzen and the DLT exercise of the ASTB app open at the same time. It will be a bit of back and forth but the timer on the ASTB app will give you enough time to switch back and start the Jantzen sim. If you need I’ll make you a video and PM it.
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Ah okay, thank you! That makes sense but if I have any questions I'll be sure to PM. Appreciate the help!
 
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lukeskywalker88

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This forum helped a ton, so I wanted to give back and share my experience with the ASTB.

My background:
23 y/o
Finance major
3.8 GPA
Not the most academically inclined!

First time taking the ASTB I primarily studied with the ASTB prep app. ASTB prep is super useful if you're starting from scratch like me. No math, no engineering, you get the picture. These were my first scores after studying for 2 weeks.
OAR:46
5/6/6

Here were my take-aways from the first time testing. 1. know the basics for math. The math was mostly algebra, exponents, percents, geometry(basic nothing crazy) and then it gave me a few word problems - probability of pulling these cards from a deck and dice problems. If you can confidently and quickly solve simple equations, then you should be fine. Don't over study the longer word problems. 2. Invest in a hotas sim. It'll make your life easier. I was scoring around a 30% on target with the ASTB prep sim game before my second exam. 3. The mechanical section is all theory. one or two equations but they were very very simple. If you are someone starting from zero, this is what I recommend using to study for each section of the test.

Math and mechanical section: kyle/gomez/olivia and some other's google drives. they're linked in the forum.
Reading: dont fall asleep
ANIT: gomez/kyle drives again. I also took the private pilot license exam. Might seem extreme, but really helped understand fundamentals of aircraft/flight etc.
PBM: everything on the ASTB prep app will set you up perfectly.

Second exam scores:
OAR: 51
8/9/8

any questions email me kylepatt@gmail.com
 
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johanson21

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For the emergency procedures portion of the exam, are we supposed to press the clutch (reset) button once we have responded to the emergency? Or do we wait for it to reset on its own? The ASTB app has it where you press the clutch to verify the response
 
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AngelCoop

New Member
lukeskywalker88 said:
This forum helped a ton, so I wanted to give back and share my experience with the ASTB.

My background:
23 y/o
Finance major
3.8 GPA
Not the most academically inclined!

First time taking the ASTB I primarily studied with the ASTB prep app. ASTB prep is super useful if you're starting from scratch like me. No math, no engineering, you get the picture. These were my first scores after studying for 2 weeks.
OAR:46
5/6/6

Here were my take-aways from the first time testing. 1. know the basics for math. The math was mostly algebra, exponents, percents, geometry(basic nothing crazy) and then it gave me a few word problems - probability of pulling these cards from a deck and dice problems. If you can confidently and quickly solve simple equations, then you should be fine. Don't over study the longer word problems. 2. Invest in a hotas sim. It'll make your life easier. I was scoring around a 30% on target with the ASTB prep sim game before my second exam. 3. The mechanical section is all theory. one or two equations but they were very very simple. If you are someone starting from zero, this is what I recommend using to study for each section of the test.

Math and mechanical section: kyle/gomez/olivia and some other's google drives. they're linked in the forum.
Reading: dont fall asleep
ANIT: gomez/kyle drives again. I also took the private pilot license exam. Might seem extreme, but really helped understand fundamentals of aircraft/flight etc.
PBM: everything on the ASTB prep app will set you up perfectly.

Second exam scores:
OAR: 51
8/9/8

any questions email me kylepatt@gmail.com
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I’m currently studying for the OAR now - Where can I find the kyle/gomez/olivia Google Drives?
 
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EWO69

Member
I took my second attempt today, 55 /6/7/7, while all 7's would have been nice. I'm still happy with these scores and confident I'll pick up. The previous attempt was a 45 5/5/5.

OAR- I waited roughly 40 days between attempts. Looking back on my previous attempt, I believe math was my weakest area. In order to prepare for this attempt, I spent roughly 90% of my time doing math tests in the ASTB prep app until I was getting above a 90 on every test. While this helped a ton, I think varying my study material would have helped more. I also ended my math test after 16-18 questions. It was probably still a weak area for me, as some of the questions were difficult and I just took my best guess. I was confident in my RCT, so I spent 0 time attempting to improve that. MCT seemed simple the first time, so I really only took a few practice tests on the app for this. Most of this is simple math or concepts. Tons of lever questions.

AINT- This was a bit more difficult this time. I wish I had studied more for it. A lot of the questions were exactly the same or similar to the app.

For the PBM
The dichotic listening joystick and throttle didn't disconnect this time, so I didn't miss a single one. I took the ear I wasn't using off.
Throttle and joystick - I got my own X52 and practiced on the TBAS Steam app. This could have been further improved, as I still struggled a bit in the test. As someone has said before, anticipating the direction changes can help a lot.
For dichotic listening + joystick and throttle, I would take off the ear I didn't need. This was more feasible than leaning to one side for me. Just the way my brain works lol. Being able to do it without having to take an ear off and let go of the controls will obviously give you a better score.
The EP component was super easy this time. Write all directions down. As soon as I started, I moved the knobs to the correct values for the first EP. As soon as the EP went off, I clutched in and completed it. I then prepped for the next EP before I even had indications. The EPs are in the same order as the directions for them. Very easy to game.
The UAV component was smooth this time. I only missed one and averaged a time of probably 2.2 or less. USE THE APP FOR THIS! do it until it is second nature.
Terrain identification- Use the paper compass trick, and you'll be good to go.

Good luck to everyone! If you have any questions PM me and I will help you to the best of my ability!
 
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JRDrezzoo

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Just took the ASTB and here's what i gotta say
GPA: 3.02
AQR - 6
PFAR - 9
FOFAR - 7

OAR- just as everyone said before. All the Gomez, GT, Dallas, Olivia, etc drives will help you the most. Whatever questions you will see on those practice tests are just as it is on the OAR math wise. Regarding the Reading section, some answers will be hilariously incorrect and will limit your choices down to just two. MCT is easier than youd expect and covers the very basic versions of all topics from the drives, so obtain a decent understanding of each and youll be fine.
ANIT - Read Popeyes Gouge and all topics from the ASTB Prep sim, questions from those were literally word for word on the exam.

PBM - Somehow came incredibly easy to me, setting the E and I knobs prematurely to each EP and simply pressing the clutch allowed me to stay on the sticks for almost the entire time. Whatever procedures they tell you about chronologically will show up in that exact order. Additionally its helpful to write on a piece of paper and put next to each control whether that side is even or odd. Getting under 90 on medium difficulty on the ASTB sim as a great sign that you will do excellent on the PFAR.

UAV - Using the compass rose, i poked my pencil through it and twisted the compass rose using my fingers to identify headings in under 1.7 seconds every time(except for when the man didnt speak at all, happened for about 5 of the questions and threw me off).

Terrain Identification - Exactly like the mode on ASTB Prep, same type of map as well with less clutter like vast never ending cities.

Overall im really disappointed in my AQR and i felt like i couldve done so much better on the math portion but that goes to show how important that studying for the OAR is(if your recruiter tells you that math isnt that important when going for SNA, DONT listen to him)

Finally i would love input on how my stats would stack up for BDCP board in September!!!
 
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ChrisF11

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Just got my X52 in and am waiting for a USB adapter so I can use it on my Macbook Pro. Was wondering if anyone could explain how to get it fully set up? Or is it just plug and play for the Jantzen SIM and ASTB Prep App? I've seen mention of things like AntimicroX but have no idea what that means or if I need it lol. Would appreciate any advice!

Additionally, is the Jantzen SIM and ASTB Prep App enough to practice the PBM portion? I've seen people say they use some program on steam but am unsure if that'd just be overdoing it.
 
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FloridaExport

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ChrisF11 said:
Just got my X52 in and am waiting for a USB adapter so I can use it on my Macbook Pro. Was wondering if anyone could explain how to get it fully set up? Or is it just plug and play for the Jantzen SIM and ASTB Prep App? I've seen mention of things like AntimicroX but have no idea what that means or if I need it lol. Would appreciate any advice!

Additionally, is the Jantzen SIM and ASTB Prep App enough to practice the PBM portion? I've seen people say they use some program on steam but am unsure if that'd just be overdoing it.
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For MacBook you you’ll have to buy Joystick mapper ($4) to set it up and for ASTB app you’ll have to pay $10 to use X52 with it. I suggest biting the bullet with ASTB app bc you can use Jantzen and ASTB DLT portion at the same time.
 
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ChrisF11

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FloridaExport said:
For MacBook you you’ll have to buy Joystick mapper ($4) to set it up and for ASTB app you’ll have to pay $10 to use X52 with it. I suggest biting the bullet with ASTB app bc you can use Jantzen and ASTB DLT portion at the same time.
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I see, thanks for the suggestion! I'm still trying to finish up mechanics and math at the moment but just wanted to try and get a head start on understanding the PBM section as I'm planning on using the month of August to study for and practice ANIT and PBM.

Is there a specific way I should be mapping the X52? And does the $10 to use the X52 with the ASTB app pop up when I plug it in and plan to use it? Just wondering because I currently don't see anywhere it says to pay $10.
 
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FloridaExport

Member
ChrisF11 said:
I see, thanks for the suggestion! I'm still trying to finish up mechanics and math at the moment but just wanted to try and get a head start on understanding the PBM section as I'm planning on using the month of August to study for and practice ANIT and PBM.

Is there a specific way I should be mapping the X52? And does the $10 to use the X52 with the ASTB app pop up when I plug it in and plan to use it? Just wondering because I currently don't see anywhere it says to pay $10.
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1. X52 should be mapped in accordance with the Jantzen sim keyboard setup, you can take a look at the instructions page. Just remember that its a negative transfer for the joystick meaning moving down on the Y axis means you will go up and moving up on the Y axis means you will go down but left is left and right is right.

2. Yes the $10 will pop up when you try to use it
The joystick mapper is pretty intuitive but if you hit a hurdle there are youtube videos that can help you out. The caveat of the Joystick mapper is that the throttle has a HUGE deadzone so you'll really have to push up and down on the throttle to get the target to move and you can't adjust it since the controls are keyboard keys (you'll see what I mean). The jantzen sim will automatically have the fuel and engine knobs calibrated however, they are backwards so keep that in mind while you practice. Also this is pretty annoying but move your dock to the left of your screen so it doesn't interfere while you practice.

I know you said that you're finishing up math and mech but try to fit this in where you can, all you really need is 30 min starting out and when you're really good you'll only need 15 minutes because its second nature. This is something I really focused on during my studying (OAR in the morning, ANIT flashcards ,UAV and terrain at work, PBM at night).

This can get really stressful and overwhelming when you integrate DLT and emergency procedures. So when you're starting out you'll want to do only throttle for 3-5 minutes and then work on your stick, you'll want to work up to the hardest difficulty and consistently hit below 130. Then both at the same time once that gets boring integrate DLT and emergency procedures.
 
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