Hey Good luck! Let me know how it goes! I'm taking at Early Feb!Hey guys,
Taking the OAR for the 2nd time tomorrow ! Ive been studying like crazy with the help of the study material that have been posted on here. My first time I received a 40 without studying. so hopefully this time around its better. Going for Crypto or SWO with a GPA of 3.02 Bachelor's in Information Technology .
Don’t cut yourself down. That’s a 10 point jump. Congrats to you. I’m taking the oar again this Tuesday and aiming for that 10 point jump as wellFinished my second attempt yesterday and brought my score up to 44 from a 34. I know it isn't impressive by any means but I wouldn't have been able to pull up my score that much if it wasn't for all of the great gouges everyone has posted. I bought a GRE book and didn't find it to be all that helpful. The GRE books are good if you need a refresher in algebra. Barron's was extremely helpful for the mechanical section.
Well done, bud. Glad to see that my post is still useful after all this time. Based on scores in recent OCS classes I think you have a good shot at NFO. Best of luck!Took the ASTB a couple days ago. Background: 26, MIS major, 3.10 GPA, Prior enlisted Airman, Pilot and NFO age waiver. I honestly felt underprepared going into it; I work full time, go to school full time, and drill for the AirNG once a month. However, I studied the crap out of these flashcards which were a huge help for the ANIT, and I also worked through the math problem document that Jacob's (the 9/9/9 guy) post linked to which was also a great refresher.
For the math section, I didn't really get anything that I thought was too difficult so I was kind of worried, knowing that the test is adaptive. I never got kicked out of the test and I actually ran out of time. Most of the questions that I remember had to do with solving for x, and there was one about the odds of getting a heart from a shuffled deck. Also, there were a couple questions about finding the last two test scores, knowing the final average and the other test scores. Another one was finding the missing angle of an acute triangle where the other two angles are like (3x-1) and the missing angle's supplementary angle was 4x. Another one had to do with a barn's size based on its shadow knowing a man's height and the shadow's height.
Reading: Went into this confident. I'm a reader, after all..Wow, incredibly boring and they do a great job trying to trick you. Also ran out of time on this one. All the aforementioned tips are correct. Only one answer is fully supported by the paragraph, so pay attention. I was pretty drained when this portion started and the questions also seemed to alternate between easy and hard which had me confused.
Mechanical: I have practically no background in mechanics. I also barely studied for this section which was stupid, and I honestly had to give my best educated guess on almost every problem. I had a questions like: At the same time, a bullet is fired from a gun and a bullet is dropped from the same height. Which will reach the ground faster? I said the gun bullet. Some other ones: where is the kinetic enegy greater, trying to find the mass of a toy car that is pushed with the force of 4 somethings and travels 2 m/s^2(I guessed 2kg), which ball would reach the ground faster if one was dropped and one was tossed into the air(guessed the tossed ball). No gear, pulley, etc questions.
NATFI: awful. You don't take the NATFI, the NATFI takes you.
UAV: Definitely use the flashcards linked in this thread. The practice session was helpful, but I was somewhat nervous on this portion and missed 3 because I was trying to go to fast. One of those errors was because I clicked a box I didn't mean to, so try and remain calm during this section. I ranged from 1.X seconds to 5.
Dichotic listening: Not terrible. Lean into the ear your supposed to be listening to. I got a couple wrong because I pressed the wrong button trying to be extremely quick.
Vertical tracking: Not very hard at all. It tries to shake you but when you're only focusing on it, it's not difficult.
Aircraft tracking: Not very easy. I switched all my gaming to inverted Y axis and it was a MASSIVE help. I can't even play games with a normal Y axis anymore, I'm ruined.
Both at the same time: I felt like a hot mess. I can't give any tips here, I basically just tried to get in the zone and do the damn thing.
Both with listening: My favorite part, because the listening distracted me from how poorly I thought I was doing.
Emergency Procedures: I wrote them down, and I recommend you do as well, but they were so simple I didn't reference the sheet. The first emergency I forgot to press the clutch to reset for a few seconds, but the next two went well.
When this was all over I saw my scores: 57 6/7/7. Not the greatest, but I literally did a jumping fist pump on my way to the door(I was the only examinee). My recruiter seemed pretty happy with them too. I was disqualified from pilot at the NAMI because my eyesight was just poor enough so I'll probably only apply for NFO since I'm iffy about LASIK.
Not bad, especially for your first time! Those are good scores, however, I want you to ask yourself if you would feel that you can do a little better the 2nd time around. If the answer is yes, then take it again and if not then live with em'. If you look on page 306, you'll see that you have fairly identical scores to me (just a tad bit higher on the OAR for you - I got a 6/6/6 46). So you can look at it like this, (a) your odds, someone correct me if I am wrong, of scoring higher is more likely than you scoring lower the second time since you can only improve from here (unless you were at like all 7's or 8's then its very hard to make that upward improvement) (b) You have solid scores for Navy and, if u were to go to USMC, assuming you can crush the PT exam (as expected of every Marine) you're practically a pilot for them.Hello,
I did my astb retake today (2nd attempt). Scored a 51 6/6/6. I used the study guides presented as well as the MATLAB PBM simulator, i know the acores arent amazing but i would love to know where that really stands as far as competitiveness.
Dude, it’s Christmas (eve). Relax.Can someone please explain the logic of this MCT question, I can't rest until I get it. Personally I disagree with the "correct" answer, maybe one of you on here might be able to explain. Here's my logic: All the valves are closed initially, thus, opening valve 7 will allow air to flow directly into G then opening valve 3 will allow air to go directly into S, now here's the issue, my logic also dictates that opening valve 4 will allow air to go into M. However, the correct answer is D (opening valves 7,3,5) which I'm sure is a typo error at this point unless someone here can kindly explain to me the logic? (Image attached below along with link to book - pg. 65 in book and on pdf it's pg. 75/456). There's also been a correction to the image which I've also attached below, thanks in advance!
I think it's either of them. 7,3,5 and 7,3,4. Again, Navy tests are not perfect.Can someone please explain the logic of this MCT question, I can't rest until I get it. Personally I disagree with the "correct" answer, maybe one of you on here might be able to explain. Here's my logic: All the valves are closed initially, thus, opening valve 7 will allow air to flow directly into G then opening valve 3 will allow air to go directly into S, now here's the issue, my logic also dictates that opening valve 4 will allow air to go into M. Thus, I get B. However, the correct answer is D (opening valves 7,3,5) which I'm sure is a typo error at this point unless someone here can kindly explain to me the logic? (Image attached below along with link to book - pg. 65 in book and on pdf it's pg. 75/456). There's also been a correction to the image which I've also attached below, thanks in advance!
Can you please post video links for Organic Chemistry that specifically includes those math topics. I watch him too but he's got so many videos with similar titles that I don't know which ones to watch that touch on those topics. Merry Chrithmith.Hey guys. I just took the test for the second time today. For my first attempt, I got a 53 5/5/6 after a week of studying. After another month of studying for my second attempt, I improved to a 58 7/7/8. I got much of my preparation advice from this thread, but I wanted to point out things I did that I haven't seen yet on this thread.
Math: A lot of people recommend Khan Academy. Khan Academy is good, but I mostly used the YouTube channel “The Organic Chemistry Tutor.” The guy explains things really well and provides excellent practice problems with his lessons. I specifically studied for:
I also looked at the study guide attached and searched the thread for common word problems people had trouble with.
- logarithms (adding, subtracting, change of base formula)
- matrices (adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing)
- equations with fractional exponents and radicals (including multiplication with different indexes and radicals in the denominator)
- perfect numbers (6, 28, 496, 8128)
- system of equations
- finding the quantity of a series, finding the sum of that arithmetic series
Reading Comprehension: Read the passages aloud. It’ll help you stay awake.
ANIT: Flash cards. Below are the ones I used:
Aircraft Crew/Shirt colors
US Navy Ratings
I also looked up naval aircraft designation numbers on Wikipedia, and this for additional history
DISCLAIMER: I knew all of these flashcards and links (almost) perfectly, and I still only knew about 60-70% of the questions.
UAV: These flashcards. Whenever I saw the arrow pointing in a direction between two headings, I read it like this: NE, ES, SW, WN. The first letter was always the top left corner and the second letter was the top right. If you know these two, you can figure out the other two squares easily since it’s just the opposite side (example: opposite corner of north is south, opposite of west is east, etc.). I hope that made sense.
I didn’t really practice for the stick and throttle part of the test, but my recruiter gave me some good advice: don’t worry about being exactly on target. Just focus on staying behind and mimicking its movements. This took pressure off me and I ended up doing much better.
Everything else I did to prepare can be found on post 4462 and 4531. Just check out the entire thread, it has a bunch of good stuff.
Best of luck everyone!