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Monster Marine OCS thread: stupid questions answered here!

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CrysisComa

New Member
MasterBates said:
Are you on crack? If you want to be an Officer, start at least ATTEMPTING to communicate like an educated primate.
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It was a joke. I dont know everything about OCS, but i do know it isnt going to be easy.

As for my lack of grammer in this thread, give me a break please. This is a forum. Im not writing an essay. Im just trying to learn some information as efficiently as possible. Hence not wasting my time to use correct punctuation.

Aside from the packing list of items they tell you to bring is there anything else i should consider bringing?
 
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KBayDog

Well-Known Member
CrysisComa said:
As for my lack of grammer in this thread, give me a break please. This is a forum. Im not writing an essay. Im just trying to learn some information as efficiently as possible. Hence not wasting my time to use correct punctuation.
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Food for thought: You are, believe it or not, beginning to forge your reputation as a potential Marine officer on this site. The Marine Corps is small, Naval Aviation is smaller, and your name/reputation travels much faster in these circles than you could possibly believe. We have a wealth of experience on this site...officer and enlisted, Aviators and Flight Officers, and even Army/Air Force folks. Many of us know each other personally, and our professional connections go far beyond this site.

This is not said to intimidate you or anything; I just want you to realize that you're not communicating with a bunch of 'wannabes' here. Those of us with various warfare insignia by our user names (Aviator/NFO Wings, SWO insignia, etc.) have earned them 'in real life,' and have all started out in your shoes at some point in our lives. Some of us are in the recruiting stage, and some of us are Vietnam veterans. In other words, we're a good source of information and advice. All we ask is a little professionalism in return. Little things like using proper grammar, punctuation, etc. go a long way towards this.

Best of luck with your OCS prep.
 
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CrysisComa

New Member
I apologize for any i may have offended. Most forums dont care much about grammer etc, but ill remember that for this one in the future.
 
phrogdriver

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
CrysisComa said:
I apologize for any i may have offended. Most forums dont care much about grammer etc, but ill remember that for this one in the future.
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I'm hoping the irony above was unintentional.

I'm more offended by someone putting "USMC" as his occupation in his profile if he's not actually a Marine.
 
sbeaTm08

sbeaTm08

Wake up, put a good dip in, crack a cold one
pilot
I went to OCS 3 years ago and I imagine it hasn't changed much. As far as all that gear they told you, forget the 2 pair of running shoes. You only need one. After week 4 or 5 you run in boots pretty much the rest of the time. Bring a back up set of civilian gear just so you don't have to wear the same crap every libo. You don't need 450$, I brought 200, I think but I also had my utilities and boots already. Can't remember how you pay on the initial gear issue, so if you're worried about it bring it. Don't worry about the watch. You can't wear it anyway and they take it from you. Only when you have a billet can you wear the damn thing. If you want to bring it that bad get a cheap one. They "give" you everything else you need on gear issue which happens pretty quick. Label everything, like someone posted before, and keep it organized. Pays dividends on pick up, trust me. That's about it. Key to OCS is don't be a dumbass or asshole and do as your told. Swallow the pride when someone your age is telling you what to do and do it even if they are jacked up. On a personal note, talk to the men on here with the respect they deserve, they are Marines, you aren't. Good luck and don't be "that guy."
 
Ventilee

Ventilee

Active Member
pilot
Contributor
I was at Juniors last summer and am packing for Seniors in a few weeks(assuming my waiver goes through). I brought two pairs of running shoes and only ended up using one of them. Label everything, even stuff you don't think you need to label like your razor. The things that are missing from your packing list are: a massive permanent marker, 1" white tape, and a headlamp with a red lens. Trust me on the head-lamp, walking around the squad bay with that crappy flashlight they give you is miserable.

I found that hockey tape works much better then the tape that they give you for marking. The particular brand that I used was Renfrew and I could hose it down and it would look brand new even after things like the Combat Course.

You will be provided with a sea-bag so you don't need to bring one. I will be bringing a medium-sized hiking backpack this summer for my civvies. Also, buy a polo that is lightweight and breathable material. Nothing is more miserable then wearing a maroon polo made out of cotton in the Quantico sun. Ask me how I know.

EDIT: Check out www.marineocs.com for some more tips and tricks about making it through OCS.
 
GoBucks

GoBucks

New Member

Hi all. I spent hours last night reading this entire thread, absorbing (almost) every word. A big THANK YOU to everyone who has shared their wisdom! My question is this - why do female candidates drop like flies due to injury or DOR? The numbers say a smaller percentage of women make it through almost every class, but is this due to lack of motivation/ego drive? Or is the training (or yelling, or 2-minute showers) actually objectively harder on the gals?
 
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Skirmisher

SNA
They have to complete all of the exact same physical events as the males do, to include all the hikes, with the same pack load, endurance and obstacle courses and other pt events. Generally speaking, males have the advantage in this department. Though I'd say most of the females that dropped were from DORs at least from my experience. I wouldn't say the training is significantly more difficult for females than it is for males, but I would say that generally, females are at a slight physical disadvantage, and possibly not many of them are prepared to be yelled at and stressed out in the manner that they are at OCS. Those female DIs were also scary as hell and they kept the stress and the mind games going all the way into graduation week, but that's staff-dependent. I can tell you that the females that were left to walk across that parade deck on graduation were just as driven and motivated or even more so than many of the males in the company.
 
81montedriver

81montedriver

Well-Known Member
pilot
Definately true. The female DI's never let up one bit. The female platoon was in the squad bay next to mine so we were all fortunate enough to hear everything they endured. They started with about 72 and graduated 15. Men definately have the advantage because of the way we are built. Not to say that guys won't get injured, plenty do. But the females began dropping like flies when we started doing more of the physical events i.e. o-course, humps and e course.

There was a hell of a lot of crying from the females as well. That's usually when you knew they were about to DOR. Funny thing was, I saw a lot of dudes cry too.
 
GoBucks

GoBucks

New Member
Thank you for your responses. I completely agree that God made men to hunt, run, climb trees, and fight... Women are a little better suited to standing barefoot in the kitchen. I'm a girl and I have NO problem regarding men as the stronger sex - viva la difference! I just keep looking at these attrition rates, though, and I don't *get it.* A DOR is a choice to quit. I don't *get* why girls by the dozens DOR. That's why I'm trying to see whether there is something concrete that pushes them over the edge.
 
CWJones411

CWJones411

IRR
Bring:
A durable watch. They didn't take these away from us and it was damn useful at night.
A GOOD headlamp (Not in fact, contraband) with a red lens. I brought a shitty one and suffered for it.
1" White tape. Lots.
Electric tape (When you mark your rifle, put a layer of electric tape first, otherwise it will such to get the white tape off when you need to pull labels off)
Sharpies of various sizes
Durable notepad (Rite in the rain works well)
Wrinkle free civvies (waiting behind 50 people to iron your civvies before Libo sucks)
1 Pair of shoes
A small backpack in your civvie bag. This will get locked away until you get Libo, but if you leave base for a hotel, you won't need to use an Assault pack as an overnight bag.
A good book to stash in your civvie bag. The last 2 weeks will be boring as hell.

Also,
Don't let your friends who like pranks know your address at OCS. A guy in my platoon received a box with 7 different dildos each labeled a different day of the week, and a large quantity of gay porn, courtesy of one of his buddies.

Don't eat an orange on firewatch.
Get back from libo on time.
If you fuck up, fess up.
Go to medical early and they'll fix you. I almost let cellulitis take me out until I got meds.
Wash your hands.
 
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Skirmisher

SNA
Second on the prankster friends bit. Any package bigger than an envelope has to be opened in front of the platoon staff. We had a guy get a package full of anal beads, and gay porn. Our SI just shook his head and told him to get it out of his sight.
 
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