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New trend (poll)- bringing mini white-boards to the brief

Are the mini white-boards a good idea?

  • Good- shows motivation and saves time.

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Bad- you should spit everything out from memory.

    Votes: 30 45.5%
  • Neutral- I could care less if I were the IP.

    Votes: 25 37.9%

  • Total voters
    66

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I voted yes because I use my own whiteboard when I have to draw a system. I don't know how the rest of you manage to draw on a vertical board while stooping over that desk. If I do it at home it actually looks like the system I'm supposed to be briefing. I'll label the components but I have the specs memorized. My onwing was okay with it so I continued doing it.

It also keeps me from having to get to the lineshack an hour before I brief. It's frusterating to have to wait for a briefing space because guys briefing at noon have a space set up at 1000, then went to the greasy spoon.

All that aside. If the IP strolls in and erases it, I damn well make sure I can draw it again.

This seems like more studs getting worked up over nothing. "Dude, nice gay drawing from home. Why are you dipping your piss cutter? You don't rate that jacket yet. Blah blah blah."

So you all claim briefing spaces in Whiting? Interesting......Around here you pretty much just wait until your IP/onwing comes to get you and then you both grab one. Seems to work pretty well, and you don't end up w/ some Dbag taking up a brief space who has a brief time after yours.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
So you all claim briefing spaces in Whiting? Interesting......Around here you pretty much just wait until your IP/onwing comes to get you and then you both grab one. Seems to work pretty well, and you don't end up w/ some Dbag taking up a brief space who has a brief time after yours.

The IP can always invoke Alpha dog status protocol on said Dbag.
 

BACONATOR

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
So you all claim briefing spaces in Whiting? Interesting......Around here you pretty much just wait until your IP/onwing comes to get you and then you both grab one. Seems to work pretty well, and you don't end up w/ some Dbag taking up a brief space who has a brief time after yours.

I like the system here better. It is a time-saver, since we go in, write up our info, the flight, NATOPS and EP question of the day, draw our system up and have all the briefing items up before the IP shows up.

Plus it saves you from studs, or worse, other IPs from opening the door on you in the middle of the brief, interrupting and BSing with your IP for 5 minutes.
 

pjxc415

Registered User
pilot
Roll into VT-3 with a pre-drawn whiteboard and you will get made fun of by at least 2 instructors i know
 

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
pilot
Contributor
Roll into VT-3 with a pre-drawn whiteboard and you will get made fun of by at least 2 instructors i know

Oh shucks, someone making fun of me, that's about the worst thing I could imagine . . . I don't give a hoot if someone wants to laugh because I have a briefing space prepared for a brief. I find it saves time, in and out. Unless of course your IP shows up late, or not at all because you were canceled and the AFDO didn't call to tell you that you're canceled, yeah that was slightly annoying.
 

Bolter

Member
pilot
Naval Aviation has survived for decades without bringing your own white board to a brief, so I really don't think that this will make you a better pilot or earn you any brownie points. Regardless, e-briefs are trickling down through the training command, so eventually you'll be pointing and clicking anyways.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
O.K., I'll bite: WTF is a "white board"?? ... I can guess, but tell me anyway. Humor an old man.

Is it another modern "upgrade" from the ancient, arcane briefing card & chalkboard -- a modern development that has served to advance Naval Aviation exponentially?? Or perhaps is it something more ... mysterious .. ??? :eek::)

briefui3.jpg
 

Morgan81

It's not my lawn. It's OUR lawn.
pilot
Contributor
Yes sir, a whiteboard is an upgrade from a chalkboard. No dust, no mess plus fancy colors; picture this, but smaller in this thread's case:
1208509868.02_Econ-Whiteboard.jpg

You know, I was about to throw in some obvious jokes here, but I realized how much I don't want to know about whiteboards and how little a give a sh!t about them. I can't wait for retirement.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
^ Thanks ... that's kinda what I suspected ... :) ... hated that chalk dust ... :) ... I suppose the only potential downside to the white board would be there's hell to pay if you don't have the right color marker ... ??? :D
 

FLYTPAY

Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot
pilot
None
When I first got to the fleet, I sucked at briefing. Some of you will suck and some of you will be average. I had to find something that worked for me so when giving a board brief in the fleet, I wrote the brief out on a standard piece of paper the night before. I could make it fit the entire board, be logically organized, and I could murderboard it. At some point you will powerpoint brief. Yes the mobile brief board is dorky. Just put it on a piece of paper and transcribe it in the brief space. And if by chance you are combat briefing it where there is no white board, whip out your piece of paper and you have a brief board sans looking like a tool.
 

Rubiks06

Registered User
pilot
I don't see a problem with it until you are the guy that shows up to your airspace brief with all the sizes shapes and requirements written out thinking you'll be able to brief it off the board. Yep I saw it. It's a tool not a study replacement.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
You SHOULD be able to brief the entire hop -- whether single ship or multi-plane -- off a kneeboard/briefing card, no more ... no less. That's all you're gonna' have in the airplane. Unless you have the luxury of having an airborne male secretary, sometimes referred to as an NFO. :D

BUT: a chalkboard/whiteboard is a handy tool for the Ready Room (or briefing cubicles, if you still use those too-small ridiculous spaces that are impossible to cram bodies/chairs in for a 3-plane). It's also great to be able to diagram a system in the brief -- but your system knowledge should be directed toward "how will this help me troubleshoot when airborne" as you contemplate emergency/abnormals while still on terra firma that ARE NOT in "the book".

And believe me -- plenty of "them" (most over my career?) were NOT in "the book".

There are no hard/fast rules for "how to brief" ... it will get "modified" when you get to the squadron or even get mission-specific ... no one size/one way fits all ... I'm just thinkin' out loud ... :)
 
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