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New trend (poll)- bringing mini white-boards to the brief

Are the mini white-boards a good idea?

  • Good- shows motivation and saves time.

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Bad- you should spit everything out from memory.

    Votes: 30 45.5%
  • Neutral- I could care less if I were the IP.

    Votes: 25 37.9%

  • Total voters
    66

FlyingSquidz

New Member
Started seeing a few of the stud's showing up with these.

They're all gouged up already with the day's briefing items.

Is this just a Milton thing, or is it in Corpus too?

Thoughts?
 

LivinMyDream

Member
pilot
Why not get to the brief 30 minutes early and use the boards already present? As it was, I had instructors erase my pretty little systems drawings and make me re-do them from memory.
 

Tom

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Study by drawing the board at home. It also helps in case you have the 0515 brief so you have less to do in the morning. Extra fine tip white board markers are crucial too. I used boards and I would recommend using them.
 

Ektar

Brewing Pilot
pilot
I had one of those mini-white boards in primary. I would bring my systems in already drawn out, my on-wing said it was kosher as long as I didn't label the system components. To each his own I guess...

However, having gone through Primary at Whiting, I know that there was a lack of briefing spaces, especially at VT-2, so having a mini-white board would help. You could take it and brief anywhere with your IP or if you got a brief space 2 mins before your brief started you were already set-up with brief items.
 

Raptor2216

Registered User
I don't remember having to write a single thing on a board during my days at corpus. We simply used the briefing cards to discuss the required material. There was the occasional system drawing but that was rare.


In my opinion, its a very nerdy thing to do if you are carrying around your own boards. If anyone tried to pull this stunt here, it would definitely earn you a verbal beating by your squadron mates and rightly so. Lets not try to geek up naval aviation.
 
Why not get to the brief 30 minutes early and use the boards already present? As it was, I had instructors erase my pretty little systems drawings and make me re-do them from memory.
Concur.
I don't see the point. Show up early, do what you need to do - that's just the way it works.

Bringing another whiteboard is unnecessary and stupid.
 

BACONATOR

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Ya, I didn't vote because it's a moot issue. Here at south field, we HAVE briefing spaces with big ass white boards. I just go in an hour before brief time, do W&B, grab a space, draw up any applicable system, all my briefing items up, NATOPS question of the day and EP of the day and take 5 before the brief starts.

Why the hell would you bring your own board? If you do bring your own small whiteboard, just make sure it fits in your roller-backpack.
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
pilot
Contributor
Doesn't bringing a board with all your stuff already on it kinda defeat the purpose of doing it from memory ... i.e. KNOWING your stuff?

I'm with bogey on this ...
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
I just noticed this at VT-6, a few studs walking around with the little white boards. I have yet to have any student use one in a brief with me though. I've never made a student draw the system while I sat there either. They usually have everything drawn out before hand.
 

BACONATOR

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I just noticed this at VT-6, a few studs walking around with the little white boards. I have yet to have any student use one in a brief with me though. I've never made a student draw the system while I sat there either. They usually have everything drawn out before hand.

+1. One time, I kinda felt like it was "cheating" so I left the parts unlabeled, and my onwing says "why didn't you label the parts?" I told him I wanted him to know that I knew the system and didn't just copy it down (I heard other IPs wanted it done this way) and he just goes "oh, well you can just label it next time beforehand). haha.

In primary, I had to draw the system out in the brief a couple times, but the IP usually left the room and gave me 5 minutes and came back.
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
+1. One time, I kinda felt like it was "cheating" so I left the parts unlabeled, and my onwing says "why didn't you label the parts?" I told him I wanted him to know that I knew the system and didn't just copy it down (I heard other IPs wanted it done this way) and he just goes "oh, well you can just label it next time beforehand). haha.

In primary, I had to draw the system out in the brief a couple times, but the IP usually left the room and gave me 5 minutes and came back.

I could be a dick and make sure it's drawn as I sit but I think the FRS will cover that, if required of course. At VAW-120, we had to draw out the systems in detail during the brief, explain as we went along. It's enough just getting the stud to not fall apart prior to the flight. As with the other IP's, I'll know if you're not prepared.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I always drew out systems as my onwing watched.....he didn't complain, and I guess I didn't realize that you could do it any other way (i.e. it isn't from memory if you just draw it up before-hand). Either way, seriously just use a piece of paper or something if there is not already a whiteboard.
 

ea6bflyr

Working Class Bum
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
I've seen this trend at VT-86 as well, but mostly by guys in the Air-to-Air Fighter stage. Haven't seen any in the Strike stage yet.

As for the cheating comment: "If you ain't cheating you ain't trying hard enough."

-ea6bflyr ;)
 

llnick2001

it’s just malfeasance for malfeasance’s sake
pilot
Like a lot in flight school I'd say it will be instructor dependent. I'd definitely use it to study. As far as bringing it in all made up, strikes me as nerdy, but if the instructors are cool with it and it makes life easier on you, have at it.
 

Morgan81

It's not my lawn. It's OUR lawn.
pilot
Contributor
Why a whiteboard and why not a notebook?
Seems like it's a bit overboard to me but what do I know.
To study however, I would have never made it through primary without a whiteboard, best study aid I had.
I only used the whiteboards in the briefing spaces to explain what I meant a little better; systems, HAPL/LAPLs, form questions etc. IPs never said I needed to draw anything, but I felt it helped me.
 
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