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Stupid questions about Naval Aviation (Pt 2)
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The Hummers had chem toilets back in the day. The AEC is still labeled "Lavatory," and the mounting points for the shitter are still there. Each pilot has a relief tube, and there's a third in the back for the Moles. The girls would have to nude up and use the "lady adapter" if nature called irresistibly, but at least they could do it in some privacy.
The E-2D, incidentally, will not have this option. The AEC is now completely filled with some new avionics gear, and the FO relief tube is located in the FEC, tucked into a little compartment in the hatch.
As with every other plane, there just is no way to gracefully squeeze play-dough. At least one pilot of my acquaintance wound up crapping in his helmet bag. The salty dog carries a Hefty yard bag in his helmet bag for just such emergencies, but there's still no good way to dispose of it afterward. SOP used to be chucking it out the ditching hatch on final; this is obviously only an option if it's the ACO's poop, or you've got the world's most understanding and helpful ACO*. However, since an unfortunate incident where the offending bag got hung up on one of the vertical stabs and thence flung through the starboard prop upon trapping - yes, the literal shit literally hit the literal fan - this option is no longer considered except in extremis.
* NB: If this should ever happen to you, and the ACO is willing to handle disposal of your leavings, and he or she then ever pays their own money for anything for the rest of cruise, you fail as a human being.
The E-2D, incidentally, will not have this option. The AEC is now completely filled with some new avionics gear, and the FO relief tube is located in the FEC, tucked into a little compartment in the hatch.
As with every other plane, there just is no way to gracefully squeeze play-dough. At least one pilot of my acquaintance wound up crapping in his helmet bag. The salty dog carries a Hefty yard bag in his helmet bag for just such emergencies, but there's still no good way to dispose of it afterward. SOP used to be chucking it out the ditching hatch on final; this is obviously only an option if it's the ACO's poop, or you've got the world's most understanding and helpful ACO*. However, since an unfortunate incident where the offending bag got hung up on one of the vertical stabs and thence flung through the starboard prop upon trapping - yes, the literal shit literally hit the literal fan - this option is no longer considered except in extremis.
* NB: If this should ever happen to you, and the ACO is willing to handle disposal of your leavings, and he or she then ever pays their own money for anything for the rest of cruise, you fail as a human being.
I don't even know where I'd get one bear. Let alone a whole case of bears.
The great thing about helos is that you land a lot and can step out.
My wingman on a flight over nowhere, Texas, in -46s, declared a "Number two exhaust failure," then broke off and descended rapidly. I'm thinking,"What the hell is a #2 exhaust failure?" and turned to follow him. I see him land in the desert and set down next to him. He's bolted out of the cockpit, and has put the brass hopper (think big aluminum funnel) on the deck and is sitting on it like a toilet seat.
"#2 exhaust failure...oh...so THAT'S what he meant."
Your search abilities FAIL. Lots of threads on that kind of thing. Do you really believe that the plan would be to just "crap/piss yourself?" You don't think the engineers could come up with anything better?
Brett
The weiner NATOPS has one sentence about the relief tube, but doesn't mention what it's for. I just always thought it was for talking into during ICS failures. I've just been pissing myself since that's what the seat cushions appear to have endured already.
I've seen it happen.... hence the guy who shat in the sonobouy tubes during a 3.5 hour PG mission (on chilli-mac day no less). He then placed his PCL ontop of the tube while his trusty copilot in the left seat "launched" the buoy.
After the tube was reasonably clear, he poured water down the tube in an attempt to get the residual to clear the tube. Once again, another cover with the PCL and a flush by the copilot.
I can neither confirm nor deny that pilots and aircrewmen have swapped position mid-flight to exchange some trigger time during a gun-ex for some stick time.
Never say never...
Getting a case worth of bears isn't the problem, getting them in the box and tapping it shut can be a real nightmare.
No designs that I have ever seen, though some of the guys in the fleet get yellow ones (which I think are useable both during the day and at night). As a student you are issued the smoked daytime one, and the clear nighttime visor, though this arrangement can be sort of annoying if you are flying around sunset because you can't change them out in the aircraft. That and in a T-45 you want your visor down so that you don't get your face plastered with molten lead from the MDC in the canopy if you have to eject
pilot811
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Ah ok. I think the yellow ones would be the most beneficial. Does anyone have dual visors or did I just see those in magazines?
I'm not very familiar with the ejection seats since a C-172 doesn't really have those haha. Without getting into too much detail what is a MDC and what does lead do with it?
Kevin
Not really. Flights in the T-45 are rarely over a 1.5 and we also rarely flew around dusk, so changing a visor in flight wasn't necessary. The only times I had to raise my dark visor in flight was when we had to go through some serious weather
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