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LT Advancement

navydude

Banned
Do LTJG's that are getting out after their 4-year commitment exit the Navy as a LT? Always wanted to know how that works since LT is 'generally' an automatic promotion...

Thanks!
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
Most don't get out at exactly 4 years to the day, so normally LTs. Only JGs I have seen get out were getting out for med issues or "Trouble"
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
None
Who gets 4 year commitments? I thought it was a minimum of 5 for OCS/ROTC types.
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
When I comm'd it was 4 at commissioning. Then another 8 when you were winged. If you DOR'd or Attrited and then redesignated then you'd prob have to sign another type of commitment (i.e. sign on for another 4 for Suppo or something) I think.

If you get out after your orig 4-yr commitment (say, with a month of terminal leave), do you pin on before getting out? Not sure the answer on that one. Anyone?
 

ea6bflyr

Working Class Bum
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Who gets 4 year commitments? I thought it was a minimum of 5 for OCS/ROTC types.

8 Year total commitment:
SWO: 4 Active/4 IRR
NUKE: 5 Active/3 IRR
NFO: 6 active (after winging)/? IRR
Pilot: 8 Active (after winging)/0 IRR

-ea6bflyr ;)
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
8 Year total commitment:
SWO: 4 Active/4 IRR
NUKE: 5 Active/3 IRR
NFO: 6 active (after winging)/? IRR
Pilot: 8 Active (after winging)/0 IRR

-ea6bflyr ;)

ok, let me rephrase:

"If you get out after your orig 4-yr active commitment (say, with a month of terminal leave), do you pin on before IRR? Not sure the answer on that one. Anyone?"
 

MrSaturn

Well-Known Member
Contributor
If you DOR'd or Attrited and then redesignated then you'd prob have to sign another type of commitment (i.e. sign on for another 4 for Suppo or something) I think.

Negative, both the DOR's and Attrites do not have to sign new commitments with redesignations, just finish off your 4/5 or whatever it was initially. It might be a possibility but I have not seen it happen or implemented.
 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
Negative, both the DOR's and Attrites do not have to sign new commitments with redesignations, just finish off your 4/5 or whatever it was initially. It might be a possibility but I have not seen it happen or implemented.

I knew a guy that DOR'd with less than a year left on his contract, he picked up for Intel and had to sign on for 5 to get the school....
 

MrSaturn

Well-Known Member
Contributor
I knew a guy that DOR'd with less than a year left on his contract, he picked up for Intel and had to sign on for 5 to get the school....

I dont doubt it and it could just be an intel thing, but I just know while working in TW-4 student control all the Attrites and DOR's filing though that was never brought up . Plus I did not have to sign any paper along those lines. But I didn't DOR, I attrited and have more than a year left on my contract. Like everything its a game.

But there are more fun games to play I suppose...
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milky-f18

loud-mouthed, know-it-all
I knew a guy that DOR'd with less than a year left on his contract, he picked up for Intel and had to sign on for 5 to get the school....

Almost every school has an associated commitment. I believe that SWO school is the only one that doesn't because there really isn't a school anymore. I'm pretty sure if you made it to 2 1/2 years of flight school without getting winged by attrition and then went to SWO, you could leave at 4. The only gotcha might be that to take PCS orders, you have a minimum commitment, but I think that is only 1 or 2 years based upon whether you had to move, but I forget.
 

navydude

Banned
thanks for all the replies!

but before we go on too far a tangenet...the question remains. Does an officer who gets out after 4 yrs (or goes IRR or whatever) promote to LT the last day of his obligatory service (i.e. his 4-yr mark)?
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
thanks for all the replies!

but before we go on too far a tangenet...the question remains. Does an officer who gets out after 4 yrs (or goes IRR or whatever) promote to LT the last day of his obligatory service (i.e. his 4-yr mark)?
Promotions to LT (if like promotions to Capt in the Marine Corps) are the first ones that are tied to your lineal number, rather than 2 years after your last promotion. I have known guys that pinned on Capt, then the next day went on terminal leave. I have also known guys that went on terminal leave then got promoted. It depends is about all any of us can say.
 

HH-60H

Manager
pilot
Contributor
If you are selected for promotion while on the active duty list and go straight into the Reserves and remain in the same competitive category (i.e. no lat xfer) then you can pin it on when you would have normally on active duty. I can't find a reference for this, but I am pretty sure it is correct.


However, unlike the USMC, LT promotions happen on the first day of the month following 2 years time in JG grade (i.e. they are not tied to lineal numbers like the Capt list).

http://www.npc.navy.mil/Boards/ActiveDutyOfficer/03Line/
 

Thisguy

Pain-in-the-dick
thanks for all the replies!

but before we go on too far a tangenet...the question remains. Does an officer who gets out after 4 yrs (or goes IRR or whatever) promote to LT the last day of his obligatory service (i.e. his 4-yr mark)?

No, they get out as LTJG's. As was stated above, you make LTJG 2 years to the day of your commissioning, but you don't make LT until the 1st of the following month, so getting out at exactly four years will leave you shy of that. I'm sure submitting your resignation letter 9-12 months out will take you off the O-3 message list.
 
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