Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Fuck if I know.
Probably the same way people pass driver's license exams when not speaking the language the road signs or questions are in.
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Probably the same way people pass driver's license exams when not speaking the language the road signs or questions are in.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Meh, people read "functionally illiterate" and misconstrued that means they can't read and write basic sentences at all instead of what it actually means, which is they can't regularly apply reading and writing to real world scenarios unless someone explains what's on the page to them.
If you've ever gone back and forth with a few emails and had to resolve the issue with a phone call, you've encountered someone who is functionally illiterate - which amounts to as many as 60% of Americans.
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And the best part about this as AI proliferates we’re only going to get dumber and less able to apply critical thinking skills.
Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task – MIT Media Lab
This study explores the neural and behavioral consequences of LLM-assisted essay writing. Participants were divided into three groups: LLM, Search Engine…
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And as it interacts with humans more, AI gets dumber
AI Is Getting Dumber and the Results Are Not Pretty
Will our corporate overlords figure out they still need creative humans?
That’s a fairly absurd statement to make.
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Did someone say recruiting?
What is absurd about it?
A question was posed, "You're telling me all your E6 and above could read beyond elementary school sentences and didn't 'fake it till they make it' by uptasking their officers?".
To which I answered as I did.
If @Spekkio experienced less than I had, it was after the '80s.
So, what is absurd with answering a question and then placing my response into a time period?
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
My question was not whether you have ever encountered an E6 or above that could read well, but being incredulous that you had never encountered one who could not.
An extremely important distinction.
I've also worked with senior Os who were challenged with literacy.
Yup, and our current fixation on STEM degrees doesn’t help this problem. Not saying we don’t need those degrees, especially for the nuke types or the aviators we need to go the test route, but I write way more as a commissioned officer than I’ve had to use my NROTC mandated calc and physics (which is pretty much zero).
ETA, think this would actually be a great NPS thesis/dissertation for someone. Analyze the effects of NROTCs requirement to have a majority engineering majors compared to when you could major in whatever you want as long as you met the core academic requirements with performance in nuke school/flight school/SWO pin acquisition and then further on career performance. Do mech e majors truly make better P-8 NFOs than history majors?
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
That's the wrong question. The Navy hires its Os to meet control grade (O4 to O6) flowpoint goals while maintaining optimal in zone promotion rates.
The question is whether technical majors make better O5 / O6 tactical unit commanders. Considering the nature of Naval combat and the routine equipment decisions that need to be made, the service has said yes. And it's not that a liberal arts major can't be successful, it's about which one is a better predictor.
The fact that a Mech E grad O2 gets his ass kicked by the first few times he has to write messages or evals is ancillary. I'm actually very surprised at how many JOs come out of college not being able to type or use MS Office proficiently, and their QOL greatly suffers for it.
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I can say that I have never encountered anyone who was in my units who could not read, comprehend, and act upon such.
Perhaps I was just lucky. but literacy was not an issue. This was in the pre- and early PC world, were everything was done by hand.
Math, typing, research, personnel and maintenance records, pilot and aircraft logs, ship load out, overseas deployments, all checked and double checked by hand. And the smart JO's asked questions, listened, discussed and learned from the VN combat veteran officers and NCO they worked with.
I am not discounting anyone else's experience(s), just stating what I experienced.
Fascinating. From where did this predictor come? Clearly it wasn’t so during the Navy’s “golden” years of 1942 to 1952 when many combat officers didn’t even hold a college degree. It wasn’t the case in Vietnam where NavCads and AVROCS flew and commanded strikes without even finishing a degree. SWOs didn’t even have a school house until the 1970’s, learning their skill in much the same way Preble and Triston did. I’m not trying to be obtuse, I ask seriously. Is this, perhaps, a Rickoverian thing?
A lot of the schools don't teach cursive anymore, which has made it where the students can't write a conventional signature (they have to print their name). So on the form where it says "Print your name" and "Signature" they print their name for both.
Ok, let’s add that hypothesis to the NPS dissertation then. I agree with you that the Navy accepted that as a fact, however not convinced there is any data to back it up.
The beauty of liberal arts and lots of writing is forcing a person to read a lot of stuff, analyze it, and then argue a point. Technical majors do write, but there is a difference in summarizing lab results or analyzing data and making an argument based on history.