NEWS Sen Tuberville and Appointment Delays

[exNavyOffRec]

The HI DMV is a hot bureaucratic mess whose primary function seems to be placing obstacles in people's way. Worth praising the WA state DMV here, where I was able to get a new driver's license issued in about 10 minutes with zero hassle or unnecessarily complicated documentation requirements.

I will second the speed of the WA DMV, once you get to the counter. The last time I needed to renew wait times were up to 2 hours, I ended up waiting until I made a trip across the state and stopped in a smaller town, parked right in front, went in and was done like you said in 10 minutes. We now schedule our renewals around trips we make lol.

 

[Brett327]

It would be interesting to ask a lawyer what the case law is behind that, because in a way, it flies in the face of the Supremacy Clause in the Constitution.

My bet would be something to do with the Tenth Amendment, the Federal government having only enumerated powers, and (most of) the police power being generally reserved to the states. But I'm not a lawyer, just an interested amateur.

I've really just scratched the surface on the various aspects of how compliance with state laws is a challenge for a base. There are a lot of issues that we tend to play nice with them because they can make life difficult in other ways. For example, the state bird (Hawaiian Goose or Nene) is, of course, protected. We have to track every Nene fatality - bird vs car, bird vs airplane, bird vs. powerline, bird vs. somebody's dog that got loose, etc. Once we exceed our allowed number of fatalities, the state can step in and mandate mitigation measures, like reducing the speed limit on base, and other fairly heavy handed things. Bottom line, we spend a lot of effort on compliance, but it's ultimately a good posture to have and it's very good for our relationship with the community.

 

[taxi1]

I've really just scratched the surface on the various aspects of how compliance with state laws is a challenge for a base. There are a lot of issues that we tend to play nice with them because they can make life difficult in other ways. For example, the state bird (Hawaiian Goose or Nene) is, of course, protected. We have to track every Nene fatality - bird vs car, bird vs airplane, bird vs. powerline, bird vs. somebody's dog that got loose, etc. Once we exceed our allowed number of fatalities, the state can step in and mandate mitigation measures, like reducing the speed limit on base, and other fairly heavy handed things. Bottom line, we spend a lot of effort on compliance, but it's ultimately a good posture to have and it's very good for our relationship with the community.
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Tastes like chicken?

 

[Random8145]

Bottom line, we spend a lot of effort on compliance, but it's ultimately a good posture to have and it's very good for our relationship with the community.
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Not making such effort regarding the state bird might be interpreted as fowl play.

 

[Gatordev]

That was also the gouge here, and it even says on the DMV website that out of state military "should" register with the HI DMV, but we did a little digging and they cannot legally hold anyone that is not a legal resident of the state to that, so in effect, it's a recommendation, and per KPD, they cannot enforce it.

Obviously it was a long time ago and I don't know what they do now, but hopefully PMO is on the same page. I'm sure yours is, but what about other military facilities? Are they still harassing individuals that don't have a safety sticker? A rhetorical question, of course.

It’s weird that you said that. I went to Auburn when he was head coach and I had a near miss with a pedestrian while pulling out of a drive through. I did an “oh shit” stop then said it again when I saw that it was him! We were doing pretty well in football back then and he was very popular. It probably would have gone pretty bad for me if I’d hit him.

I had to jam on the breaks in order to not hit Steve Spurrier when he was crossing the road during his afternoon jog one day. Why? Because he's Steve Spurrier, of course, and can cross the street randomly without notice any time he wants.

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Gross. Bird porn.

 

[taxi1]

I had to jam on the breaks in order to not hit Steve Spurrier when he was crossing the road during his afternoon jog one day. Why? Because he's Steve Spurrier, of course, and can cross the street randomly without notice any time he wants.

The coach of Dartmouth was riding his bike at night on a road with no helmet and no lights and not at a crosswalk, and was run down. He had his leg amputated and has a spinal injury. That whole invincible thing only gets you so far.

 

[robav8r]

This is the heart of it. Tuberville is trying to block that travel if it involves reproductive care.

One of the most ridiculous euphemisms in our current culture . . .

 

[IKE]

One of the most ridiculous euphemisms in our current culture . . .

It's medical care of the reproductive system. What else would you call the collection of procedures one might have done to those parts?

 

[HSMPBR]

It's medical care of the reproductive system. What else would you call the collection of procedures one might have done to those parts?

The vacuum aspiration, dilation and evacuation, and dilation and extraction collection.

Or keep calling it reproductive care—words are just words. “Bondsman” might be more palatable than “slave,” and “germinal choice” might sound better than “eugenics,” but the meanings are not lost.

 

[Bad_Karma_1310]

The vacuum aspiration, dilation and evacuation, and dilation and extraction collection.

Or keep calling it reproductive care—words are just words. “Bondsman” might be more palatable than “slave,” and “germinal choice” might sound better than “eugenics,” but the meanings are not lost.

Yep. The meaning is that a women gets to decide if they want to have a child or not. Thanks for playing.

And for the record. A surgical abortion is also the name for the care for a miscarriage, which is why we have women in red states going through life threatening situations because idiot politicians are deciding what care doctors are allowed to provide.

 

[nittany03]

Let's please not get into a partisan shitfight. No one's going to convince anyone else.

 

[Swanee]

Let's please not get into a partisan shitfight. No one's going to convince anyone else.

On one hand we say the Taliban are wrong for what they're doing to women in Afghanistan after we left. On the other we enact legislation that follows in the Taliban's footsteps.


If that doesn't convince an officer who served in AFG, or Iraq, or Syria, or Africa that they're wrong, I don't know what will.

 

[cfam]

I know I won’t sway anyone that’s on the other side of the argument, but I’d like to offer some food for thought from personal experience.

In late 2020, my wife and I found out that our unborn daughter was missing half of her heart (she had a condition known as hypoplastic left heart syndrome). The condition is not compatible with life unless the child undergoes three open heart surgeries in their first four years of life. Even assuming those are all successful (which frankly is a complete crapshoot), they will need a heart transplant in their early twenties, and likely won’t live to see 30.

To be perfectly blunt about it, I was forced during those few months to choose whether my daughter would live or die and whether we would terminate the pregnancy or not. Luckily my wife is a nurse and in odd twist of fate, had extensively worked with children and knew how grim the odds were for their survival. We ultimately elected to deliver Nora without pursuing the surgical route, reasoning that we’d prevent her suffering but still get to spend time with her. Unfortunately she ended up being a stillbirth.

As gut-wrenching as the entire process was, I was incredibly grateful that we were left to make that decision on our own, with advice from an incredibly caring and professional medical team.

These situations are not black and white, and there are people who are significantly affected by an inability to choose their desired outcome.

 

[Random8145]

Yep. The meaning is that a women gets to decide if they want to have a child or not. Thanks for playing.

The issue though is she could be essentially murdering what is an unborn child. The pro-choice crowd seeks to twist itself into pretzels to avoid admitting this, wanting to act as if the unborn is just a blob of tissue until the moment of birth (very ironically, many of these same types also reason that creatures such as fish, frogs, flies, etc...all are living creatures with feelings and that killing any of them willy-nilly is evil). Now it's a thorny issue of when the life in the womb is a child, but after a certain point, I think it pretty clearly is.

On the flip side though, you have the pro-life side of which a good portion want to ban abortion even in the cases of rape/incest/life and health of the woman, and some even would restrict birth control, and they believe that the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg, it's now equivalent to a person.

Personally I think both sides are nuts. I think "reproductive health" is a rather bogus term but I think the idea of "abstinence education" is also not realistic.

My personal view is that abortion should generally be something we try to avoid. I think it is nonsense this idea of it being viewed as just a procedure and nothing more, it can be a lot more than that. THAT SAID though, I would not outlaw abortion and think the choice should rest with the woman.

However, I also believe that if the choice of whether to abort the child rests solely with the woman and the man gets no say, than the man should not be legally liable to have to pay for the kid if the woman decides to have it. My money, my choice.

 

[nittany03]

On the other we enact legislation that follows in the Taliban's footsteps.

Stop. All of you.