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Energy Discussion

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
We should ask our non-enemy...
So do you think taking the CO2 from where it's been, in the 180-280 ppm range for the last million years or so, to 420 ppm and climbing should have no effect? Nothing to see here, move along?
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
So do you think taking the CO2 from where it's been, in the 180-280 ppm range for the last million years or so, to 420 ppm and climbing should have no effect? Nothing to see here, move along?
Actually, I’m more concerned about the number of people on ventilators in Amarillo, TX.

Trivia question: when’s the last time the US Navy lost an aircraft carrier? Answer it correctly and you’ll see why I think we should be more concerned about some other more pressing issues in the near-term future.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
Actually, I’m more concerned about the number of people on ventilators in Amarillo, TX.
Actually, I'm sure you don't care about them at all.
Trivia question: when’s the last time the US Navy lost an aircraft carrier? Answer it correctly and you’ll see why I think we should be more concerned about some other more pressing issues in the near-term future.
WWII? Kamikazes off of Okinawa?

Tactics and strategy. glad you're thinking about the first.

Along with all of all the other reasons we fight, future wars are going to be driven by the flowdown from energy and climate issues. War is going to follow from it. Pretending that "it" doesn't exist is setting us up for failure. Like pretending that the fact that the Persian Gulf has a shit-ton of oil has nothing to do with our being over there.

Luckily, the smart people recognize this and are planning now.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Does an LHD count?
Ding ding ding!!!

The “world’s most powerful Navy” lost a capital ship that was tied to a pier because of a fire.

But goddamn, I bet everyone on board that ship had passed their temperature check that day. (Were we doing those then? Probably. I know I had to on the boat I was on just before then.) And I bet their mask compliance was off the charts! If they weren’t wearing them, leadership would be all up in their chili (again, saw it myself out on a carrier even though I’m just a reservist).

So of the four C’s in the SECNAV’s message, Culture is the one to me that’s the biggest threat. And it’s not culture like they mean, in a social justice sort of way. It’s the cultural rot that’s existed in our service for years that allows fundamentals like damage control and shipboard firefighting to take a back burner to really serious things like scaryvirus. Oh, and I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the atrocious leadership of that boat. Board selected for their sustained, superior performance. Read the report about what a bang-up job they did.

So yeah, carbon ppm. Neat. Lots of time to worry about that. Not a lot of time to worry about getting our shit in one sock before we’re fighting fires at sea that weren’t caused by malcontent arsonists.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Actually, I'm sure you don't care about them at all.
I probably gave them as much thought as you did until about an hour ago when you found a convenient infographic for your internet argument with a stranger. Which is to say: exactly zero. (Still waiting to hear about Austria and Germany by the way. Can't wait to hear your take).

Tactics and strategy. glad you're thinking about the first.

Along with all of all the other reasons we fight, future wars are going to be driven by the flowdown from energy and climate issues. War is going to follow from it. Pretending that "it" doesn't exist is setting us up for failure. Like pretending that the fact that the Persian Gulf has a shit-ton of oil has nothing to do with our being over there.

Luckily, the smart people recognize this and are planning now.
We're already fighting that "future" war. It just presents itself as jovial zoom meetings between heads of state.
 

Hair Warrior

Well-Known Member
Contributor
So you think taking the CO2 from where it's been, in the 180-280 ppm range for the last million years or so, to 420 ppm and climbing should have no effect?
Actually I was thinking that literally anything could be spun as a threat to national security if you spin it hard enough. If abstinence sweeps the nation and people stop having babies, in a couple decades your military recruit numbers will plummet. If a pacifism movement sweeps the nation and no one wants to join anymore, it would be a couple years. For a brief moment in 2020 the military wasn’t sure whether it wanted to accept recruits who had had covid (and recovered). Obviously millions of teens have had it asymptomatically or been exposed to it, which would reduce the pool of eligible recruits if the policy disallowed them from joining. I’ve seen articles about how if teens are too out of shape, on drugs, or undereducated it can present recruiting shortfalls, and therefore be a national security threat if not overcome or reversed.
 
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Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
Interesting article in the NYT yesterday concerning the importance of the mineral cobalt (required for the new electric infrastructure) from the Democratic Republic of Congo.


How Hunter Biden’s Firm Helped Secure Cobalt for the Chinese
The president’s son was part owner of a venture involved in the $3.8 billion purchase by a Chinese conglomerate of one of the world’s largest cobalt deposits. The metal is a key ingredient in batteries for electric vehicles.
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
Trivia question: when’s the last time the US Navy lost an aircraft carrier? Answer it correctly and you’ll see why I think we should be more concerned about some other more pressing issues in the near-term future.

I assume you are referencing Michael Anton’s speech at National Conservatism Conference last week. Here is a 17 minute clip well worth watching which references the history of Hong Kong and China’s plans for Taiwan - at the end, he references the sinking of the USS Yorktown at Midway in June 1942 as well as the loss of USS Bonhomme Richard last year.


Under the pen name of Publius Decius Mus, Anton wrote the article “The Flight 93 Election” which was important for generating turnout for Donald Trump in his upset victory over Hillary Clinton, without which there would be a 6-3 liberal majority on the Supreme Court.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
I assume you are referencing Michael Anton’s speech at National Conservatism Conference last week. Here is a 17 minute clip well worth watching which references the history of Hong Kong and China’s plans for Taiwan - at the end, he references the sinking of the USS Yorktown at Midway in June 1942 as well as the loss of USS Bonhomme Richard last year.


Under the pen name of Publius Decius Mus, Anton wrote the article “The Flight 93 Election” which was important for generating turnout for Donald Trump in his upset victory over Hillary Clinton, without which there would be a 6-3 liberal majority on the Supreme Court.
Wait, you mean to say there isn’t currently a liberal majority on the SCOTUS? Kidding...ish.

Thanks for the steer on that. I’d seen a shortened clip of that speech that mentioned the BHR and the ship crashes but I didn’t know his name or any of his other works. I actually figured based on what he was saying, that it was one of those naval talking heads (either cdrsalamander or Bryan something) that regularly gets roasted on this site by a bunch of the 80 pound brain super mod types.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
I assume you are referencing Michael Anton’s speech at National Conservatism Conference last week.

Same guy who thought the America First Committee was 'unfairly maligned' and that the 'left' was going to engineer a coup in last year's election? Whiffed that one...

Anyways, the approval for Nord Stream 2 was delayed by a Germany's energy regulator though for how long is a good question. Russia's shenanigans in eastern Ukraine might have more of an impact to energy supplies and prices if they actually cross the border in force.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
I visited an industrial site today for work, and the owner talked about one of his new tenants, a bunch of miners. I’m thinking coal? Local metals? It was bitcoin miners.

They chose the site because of the power infrastructure, and already had 8 of an eventually 80 megawatts of Bitcoin boxes ($10k per) up and running. Looking for prime numbers, or whatever it is that defines a Bitcoin.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
I'm picturing more of a seven dwarves mashup with a business casual-dockers-polo shirt, high tech, industrial park office building bungalow/cubicle culture, cultish workplace, 70 hour work week with a strong work from home component, young millionaire vibe.
 
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