Woman + Subs

[60flyer]

Where's a sub when you need one....:icon_smil

So what are the statistics on a pilot to nuke transition

wait..... :idea_125: I don't think ANYTHING is worth that pain....

 

[ONU_Pbear]

Time will tell how this works out.

Yahoo story here.

 

[Spekkio]

So what are the statistics on a pilot to nuke transition

wait..... :idea_125: I don't think ANYTHING is worth that pain....

Depends on how many pilots get selected to be CO of a carrier.

Oh, and it looks like as of this week, the Navy instruction regarding requirements for sub officers has been officially changed to allow women. They plan on sending women JOs to an SSBN and SSGN on both the east and west coast...the actual message was worded a bit strangely, so I don't know if that means women on 2 or 4 submarines total. The message also said that it wanted to use female chops to integrate officers at the "department head" level, and that each submarine will have manning requirements of 3 female officers. We'll start seeing women on subs in 2012.

 

[The Chief]

I got a peek at a study conducted for the Navy re assigning female officers to the crew of SSBN (class) sewer pipes. An underlying supporting reason by CNA (Center for Naval Analysis) study was that over 53 percent of physics/engineering graduates were female, thus the Navy was missing a huge pool for sub manning (no pun intended), a perirnnial problem. Dropped my coffee mug when I read that, and wonder "could that be true"? Am I that far out of touch? Doctors and Lawyers; I do understand that it is now over 50% female, but physics/engineering?

 

[Spekkio]

That seems a little off to me, too.

 

[BUDU]

Same, and I go to an engineering school...(sort of)...without looking it up, I'd say at Bucknell it would be more like 30-40% women at most. Even if they limit it to women in ROTC...seems awfully high.

 

[60flyer]

So what are the statistics on a pilot to nuke transition

wait..... :idea_125: I don't think ANYTHING is worth that pain....

Depends on how many pilots get selected to be CO of a carrier.

Oh, and it looks like as of this week, the Navy instruction regarding requirements for sub officers has been officially changed to allow women. They plan on sending women JOs to an SSBN and SSGN on both the east and west coast...the actual message was worded a bit strangely, so I don't know if that means women on 2 or 4 submarines total. The message also said that it wanted to use female chops to integrate officers at the "department head" level, and that each submarine will have manning requirements of 3 female officers. We'll start seeing women on subs in 2012.

errrr...did you read the whole thread? In NO way was I honestly asking the question of pilot to nuke. Come on now - do I look like the stupidest person on this planet

 

[HighDimension]

We'll start seeing women on subs in 2012.

Coincidence??

 

[SynixMan]

Depends on how many pilots get selected to be CO of a carrier.

Oh, and it looks like as of this week, the Navy instruction regarding requirements for sub officers has been officially changed to allow women. They plan on sending women JOs to an SSBN and SSGN on both the east and west coast...the actual message was worded a bit strangely, so I don't know if that means women on 2 or 4 submarines total. The message also said that it wanted to use female chops to integrate officers at the "department head" level, and that each submarine will have manning requirements of 3 female officers. We'll start seeing women on subs in 2012.

We're ending discrimination by putting them in charge of the food? One forward and two back, eh?

 

[EM1]

I got a peek at a study conducted for the Navy re assigning female officers to the crew of SSBN (class) sewer pipes. An underlying supporting reason by CNA (Center for Naval Analysis) study was that over 53 percent of physics/engineering graduates were female, thus the Navy was missing a huge pool for sub manning (no pun intended), a perirnnial problem. Dropped my coffee mug when I read that, and wonder "could that be true"? Am I that far out of touch? Doctors and Lawyers; I do understand that it is now over 50% female, but physics/engineering?

Its close at KU. Around 40 in engineering and from what my wife is telling me, physics is over half. Not all of them are Americans to be fair, but the numbers are getting high on the female end, while half our mostly male ROTC unit pursues history and poli sci degrees.

 

[Jim123]

... CNA (Center for Naval Analysis) study was that over 53 percent of physics/engineering graduates were female...

Its close at KU. Around 40 in engineering and from what my wife is telling me, physics is over half.

That makes a little more sense. I was scratching my head wondering if engineering demographics had changed that much since the 1990s (10-20% women then as I remember and many of them tending to electrical and then-new environmental engineering).

 

[The Chief]

That is great. I am surprised as I would have guessed 25% or less. I know Larry Summers was burned at the stake for commenting on the issue. Back in my day a female in an engineering/advanced math class was rare. Over to the soft sciences and find a majority of females. That said I do remember that in GradSchool the curve breaker was a young Vietnamese lady. Thanks for setting me straight, makes me more comfortable with the CNA study.

 

[HeyJoe]

So it begins

100429-N-1841C-078 KINGS BAY, Ga. (April 29, 2010) Rear Adm. Barry Bruner, commander of Submarine Group (SUBGRU) 10, speaks during a news conference to announce the change in Navy policy that will allow female officers to serve on submarines at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Ga. Women are scheduled to serve on Ohio-class submarines. The Ohio-class submarine is the Navy's largest class of submarine and is the best option for privacy and the chance to gain experience in both the strategic deterrent and attack submarine missions. (U.S. Navy photo/Released)

100428-N-1831S-054 KINGS BAY, Ga. (April 28, 2010) The Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine USS Alaska (SSBN 732) has set aside living quarters for female officers in preparation to be one of the first submarines to have an integrated crew. The Navy announced April 29 a new policy to station women on submarines. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communications Specialist 3rd class Ash Severe/Released)

 

[A4sForever]

If women 'should be' in submarines ... and aviation squadron seats ... and combat units ... then they would have been there from day 1.

The 'modern' USA and your PC world has a LOT of problems ...

Sorry ... some things just don't change ...

 

[60flyer]

If women 'should be' in submarines ... and aviation squadron seats ... and combat units ... then they would have been there from day 1.

The 'modern' USA and your PC world has a LOT of problems ...

Sorry ... some things just don't change ...

What kind of logic is that?? So how things were in 1800 is how they should be now??

Should there still be slavery? Should women not be able to vote? Come on - the fact that change happens is inevitable, and a lot of times it's good.

Is a male honestly a better pilot than a female purely because of gender? Yes, males may tend to have more of the skills and interests needed to be a pilot, but there sure as hell are females out there with that same exact capability. Does gender really matter if the PERSON gets the job done?