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Cavrone

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Word is that MATSG-21 CO is NOT going to make Marines live in the Q per a 2nd Lt that just had his pre-API briefing from the Col.
 
Gatordev

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SemperGumbi said:
Well, I find that again to be UNSAT. They are handing a guy a bill for moving because they are forcing him to move out of his APT at the end of the lease?

They are FORCING a move, but not ready to pay for it? Sad.

I know...I'll beat someone to it: Just get a couple of buddies and get them beer and pizzas!

Besides the fact of invonviencing your friends over what should be a non-issue, what happend when someone stumbles and your TV ends up broken? Or all the damage to that new sofa from accidently getting stuck on a nail...etc, etc. Now you are stuck with paying for that, too.

Here you go, ensign! You must move out of your apartment, pay extra to live in a BOQ (unless you are a moron, you make buku bucks staying in town; I lived alone in Gov Gate and still came out a little ahead), pay extra to move, and pay extra to have your stuff stored. If you had made some finincial decisions (or heaven forbid, have child support or something), your pockets could be running on fumes real quick.

Classic, really.
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Whoa. Slow down. I figured you'd respond, but read the post. Transferring to Whiting is not a PCS and shouldn't warrant pay. That's what I was referring to. Making someone move out of an apartment is a different ball of wax, and one that I haven't actually heard anyone here say has happened to them. If you got a letter saying "report to API and expect to live in the Q" and you got an apt. anyway, you're an idiot. If you didn't get the letter (and remember, this is a brand new policy and the pool is somewhat large), then sure, making someone move out of an apt. is ghey. But again, is that happening? I haven't heard that here (but might have missed it).

Is it kind of silly to make officers required to live in the Q? Probably. I'm glad I didn't have to do it when I was a stud. But shaking your fist at the sky and yelling will only make you tired...and people will make fun of you. The rules are the rules, no matter how silly they may be. (Like having to take my radar detector down from my visor even though it's already unplugged...but I digress).
 
SemperGumbi

SemperGumbi

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gatordev said:
But shaking your fist at the sky and yelling will only make you tired...and people will make fun of you. The rules are the rules, no matter how silly they may be. (Like having to take my radar detector down from my visor even though it's already unplugged...but I digress).
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The pay was in regard to someone being forced to move. Not out of radius, not PCS, but still expensive. I knew plenty of paycheck-to-paycheck floks for a little bit in P'Cola who this would hurt.

Just accepting the green weenie only propigates the problem, really. It probably will solve nothing to even give it a second thought, but I can at least tuck this away as something to try to prevent in the future if I ever have a say (and in fact, a long time ago as a GS I was in a better position to weigh in on this stuff where it might make a difference than I am now). Had I had to move straight to a Q out of TBS I wouldn't be nearly as butt-hurt as if I got my apartment yanked, which some of the above posts make it sound like the plan is.

And I submit this: What if you were in this situation but were a prior, or person who had a job before joining the ranks? You are older than many of the IP's. Maybe have more issues with moving into tiny space than they do.

Soooooo....

What if you went to Whiting as an IP, only to find out that the policy was now "ALL Officers checking in live in the Q until it is full." I suspect there would be a lot more outrage and a lot less "just accept it."

This doesn't affect me at all, it is just nasty in general. My fist is occupied anyway....my radar detector doesn't just remove itself, either, you know.
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MasterBates

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Gumbi,

I agree wholeheartedly. If they made us move into the BOQ here at Kingsville, I would be screwed. As in cannot pay my obligations and still eat screwed. While this has not hit here, I was forced to live in the BOQ at Whiting, and had to pay out the arse to store all my stuff, as I had an apartment and furniture in Corpus, and was told "Welcome to the BOQ, you don't have to live here, but you are not getting BAH" when I checked into the HTs in 2002.

I know what its like to be an ENS with $1100/mo in student loans, and living cheaper than BAH to try to have some cash flow. (keep in mind, O-1s made about $600 less per month then). It sucks. I was more broke than I was after my divorce.

I put up with it and went on, but its a shitty thing to do to guys.

OTOH, I have been at bases and WANTED to live in the BOQ, but they don't even have one. (NS Mayport, NAS Corpus)
 
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MasterBates

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It's a "VOQ" now. No permanent party or geo-bachelors over E-6.

I was supposed to geo-bach there when I came to Corpus a year ago. When I showed up in town, I got the "oh, geo-bach is E-6 and below only" from the local Filipino Mafia rep at the front desk. I demanded to see that in writing, and they produced it.
 
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SemperGumbi said:
Had I had to move straight to a Q out of TBS I wouldn't be nearly as butt-hurt as if I got my apartment yanked, which some of the above posts make it sound like the plan is.
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I equate this with the same validity as the Jet pipeline is closing and the sky is falling thread. I haven't heard one person have that happen yet. I AGREE completely that it's not right, but again, has it happened yet? Maybe, but we can only guess.

And I submit this: What if you were in this situation but were a prior, or person who had a job before joining the ranks? You are older than many of the IP's. Maybe have more issues with moving into tiny space than they do.
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Yup, I agree. And I witnessed this situation as a student. I was lucky and missed the window.

Soooooo....

What if you went to Whiting as an IP, only to find out that the policy was now "ALL Officers checking in live in the Q until it is full." I suspect there would be a lot more outrage and a lot less "just accept it."

This doesn't affect me at all, it is just nasty in general. My fist is occupied anyway....my radar detector doesn't just remove itself, either, you know.
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I understand your point, but to an extent, it's apples and oranges. Actually, it's not quite that bad. They're letting single guys move into base housing, which would be better than being in the Q, IMO. Many of the IPs are married, so the Q isn't really an option. As such, married students won't be required to live in the Q.

How about married people having to get permission to let their spouse in country when overseas? There's lots of silliness. Some of these things may be more important than others.

I don't know what you want me to say. I agree it sucks for the studs. I wouldn't want to do it. But it's not going to be a battle you're going to win as a student (or at least the chances are lower).
 
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Harrier Dude said:
When I was there, it was generally a once over to make sure that you didn't burn the place down or stockpile explosives in your room. Wanton buffoonery check, if you will.

.It's not an RLP. Not even remotely so.
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Well, I've failed an inspection for not having my bed made, some trash in the kitchen garbage can, and a semi unpacked suitcase on my couch (after returning from leave the night before)

I'd have no problem if it was just a "no safety hazard" type thing, but checking to make sure I make my bed? and evidently I can't let my dishes airdry out on my counter since its gear adrift.
 
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MasterBates

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I had similar experiences.

"Ticketed" for trash in trash can. Surprise inspection. What the hell am I supposed to do? Empty the trash everytime I leave the room?!!?!!!

I will NEVER live in the BOQ again if I can help it.
 
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I've never been clear on what happens when you "fail" these inspections. No doubt they come back again, but what happens when you repeatedly fail? Do they kick you out? If they do that, they lose an occupancy and have to pay you.
 
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