@Griz882 ...question, sir...what was the name of the boxing instructor at AOCS? Was it “Johnny” something? He was either a WWII or Korean War Naval Aviator. Remember how he would lead with the “pinky” when instructing on how to punch? I’m asking because I was telling our 17 year old son [who got his clock cleaned at a party last night] how I got my clock cleaned by “Killer Miller” [an NFO candidate and 41-86 classmate] at AOCS during boxing instruction...and that we had an actual boxing instructor...but I can’t confidently remember the instructor’s name. I figured since you went through AOCS a little bit before me, you may remember the boxing instructor’s name.