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Uncle Fester

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What are those, SM-3s? There goes several million bucks!

SM-2s, SM-3s... whatever it takes. :icon_tong

You're right, though, that's a lot of birds in the air at once. The live-fires I've seen were all with telemetry birds, one (maybe two) at a time.

This something they do for all new boats now? Or are they just cleaning out the war reserves?
 

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On 18 September 1941, the Marine Corps Division of Aviation published a recommendation for a glider program to include 100 12-man troop transport gliders and 50 training gliders. Included in the plans were 150 pilots and 500 enlisted men to be part of the Marine Corps glider program."

In 1942 the USMC established Marine Glider Group 71 at Page Field, Parris Island, S.C., using Schweizer LNS-1 and Pratt Read LNE-1 gliders for training. The unit also used several biplane trainer and utility aircraft for towing services. Within a short time, however, the high-performance civilian gliders were deemed not suitable for training pilots to fly the heavy assault and cargo gliders the USMC planned to employ.

Plans for Navy/Marine Corps glider operations drew to a close in 1943 as the USMC completed trials with LRW-1s (CG-4) and the Navy tested the XLRA-1 and XLRQ-1. It became apparant that glider assault was not tactically feasible against the heavily defended and small Japanese held islands of the Pacific, and the program was cancelled.

Above: Marine Schweizer LNS-1 gliders are moved from a hangar at Page Field, Parris island, S.C., May 1942. These gliders were the principal trainers for the USMC glider program. The photo was taken by Alfred T. Plamer, one of a number of photographers working for the U.S. government's Farm Security Administration (FSA) and later the Office of War Information (OWI) between 1939 and 1944. The result was approximately 1,600 color photographs depicting life in the United States during that period

Below: Two Schweizer LNS-1 gliders being towed in flight over Page Fierld, Parris Island in May 1942. Photo by Harold Mollem

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Old R.O.

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Marine glider pilot under training getting ready to hook up to the Naval Aircraft Factory N3N-3 taxing up to tow the Schweizer LNS-1 glider aloft at Page Field, Parris Island, S.C., May 1942.
Photo by Alfred T. Palmer
 

Uncle Fester

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...It became apparant that glider assault was not tactically feasible against the heavily defended and small Japanese held islands of the Pacific, and the program was cancelled...

Now that's some interesting stuff. I had no idea the Navy/MC ever had an assault glider program like the Brits and AAF.

I'd be interested to know why exactly the Corps decided air assault was infeasible. Island landing areas too small? Terrain too rough? Or did the fiasco of the D-Day gliders convince them to drop it?
 

Clux4

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Now that's some interesting stuff. I had no idea the Navy/MC ever had an assault glider program like the Brits and AAF.

I'd be interested to know why exactly the Corps decided air assault was infeasible. Island landing areas too small? Terrain too rough? Or did the fiasco of the D-Day gliders convince them to drop it?

Exactly what I was thinking. But then again the other factors you mentioned might also have discouraged the idea.

Aviation Historian, anyone?
 

Lobster

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Very Cool...

Doesn't matter your position on the guy or what he's "going" to do, its nice to seem him doing this...


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090118-A-2549K-072 WASHINGTON (Jan. 18, 2009) President-elect Barack Obama, left, and Vice President-elect Joe Biden place a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Va. Obama and Biden are taking part in inaugural events leading up to their swearing-in ceremonies Jan. 20. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jeremy Kern/Released)

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090118-N-9923C-025 WASHINGTON (Jan. 18, 2009) President-elect Barack Obama, left, Vice President-elect Joe Biden and Maj. Gen. Richard Rowe, Chairman of the Armed Forces Inaugural Committee, lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Va. Obama and Biden are taking part in inaugural events leading up to their swearing-in ceremonies Jan. 20. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Electronics Technician James Clark/Released)
 

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I'd be interested to know why exactly the Corps decided air assault was infeasible. Island landing areas too small? Terrain too rough? Or did the fiasco of the D-Day gliders convince them to drop it?

Two biggest issues were:

Where would you take off from (biggest island as island hopping campaign sometimes meant islands were really far apart)?

Where would you land (most islands weren't conducive to landing anything)?

Another issue was how to resupply troops once landed. Eventually, you have to come ashore to do that.
 

Uncle Fester

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Two biggest issues were:

Where would you take off from (biggest island as island hopping campaign sometimes meant islands were really far apart)?

Where would you land (most islands weren't conducive to landing anything)?

Another issue was how to resupply troops once landed. Eventually, you have to come ashore to do that.

Makes sense, but seems like those are the sort of issues that would have come up before they got around to getting the airplanes and setting up a training program. Or maybe it was just the spirit of the times.

Then again, gliders probably would have come in handy for OLYMPIC (the planned invasion of the Japanese home islands).
 

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Makes sense, but seems like those are the sort of issues that would have come up before they got around to getting the airplanes and setting up a training program. Or maybe it was just the spirit of the times.

If you look at some of the schemes that were being pushed then, I don't think there was a lot of "idea quality control" going on.
 

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Marines and Barrage Ballons

The first use of balloons by the Marine Corps was during World War I when they were used for artillery spotting. After the outbreak of World War II, the Navy authorized the Marine Corps to create barrage balloon squadrons for the air defense of advanced naval bases. Six squadrons (out of 20 originally envisioned) were established (ZMQ-1 through ZMQ-6), with all six seeing action in the Canal Zone (ZMQ-1 only) and the Pacific Theater. Balloon training was cancelled in the summer of 1943 and the units were deactivated by the end of the year with their mission being turned over to the Army
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These photos show Marine Barrage balloons in training at Parris Island, S.C., in May 1942. Photos by Alfred T. Palmer, who was working for the U.S. government's Farm Security Administration (FSA) (later called the Office of War Information (OWI)) between 1939 and 1944.

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Raising a barrage balloon


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Bedding down.

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ZMQ-1 patch
 
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