Okay, so KyCntryBoy and I were up at Great Lakes this past weekend for his brother's graduation from boot, and we heard some scuttlebutt that instead of Marine Gunnery Sergeants/Staff Sergeants as DIs at OCS, that we will now have Chief PO RDCs (Recruit Development Commanders, I think) as DIs. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?
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So this is what I heard...please confirm/debunk
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aeronerd
Hummer guy
Not true... You will have both USMC Gunnery Sargeants and Chief Petty Officers as part of your class team. The third member of your class team is an officer, usually a LT. Sometimes the chiefs are Senior Chiefs or Master Chiefs. DI's are always gunny's. You'll get to know them all very well. 
Okay, just making sure. Evidently these boot-cruits didn't know what the hell they were talking about...or at least not "all of it". :icon_wink
Call me crazy, but I'm glad...I'm kinda looking forward to the Gunnys...just for the experience. Yes, I know I'm crazy.
Call me crazy, but I'm glad...I'm kinda looking forward to the Gunnys...just for the experience. Yes, I know I'm crazy.
ET-Mike
A-Pool Junkie
Don't be a self-hater. If you want to have some Gunny yell at you, join the Marines. Believe it or not there are some hard ass Chiefs out there who will make you wet yourself just as fast as a Gunny ever could. They aren't all 40lbs overweight with a coffee cup. I don't mean to sound like an ass but I am just tired of people thinking Marines are so locked on and the Navy is so lazy. I am sure that isn't what you were trying to imply but it came across that way to me.
Although there are exceptions (of course), I don't agree that chiefs in general are as "hard ass" as the average Marine DI. It has nothing to do with being locked on or lazy. It's just the culture of the organization. There's a reason that chiefs are stereotyped as they are. Draw your own conclusions.ET-Mike said:
Brett
ET-Mike said:
ETMike,
No offense but I don't think you've had the Marine DI experience. A trained killer with bulging muscles and a steel jaw who can outrun your whole class wearing a smokey bear cover is vastly different than a Crypto Tech whose got 14 years and 4 deployments aboard the computer network USS CUBICLE.
In fact, whenever some of the Chiefs at OCS tried to throw down some hurt, it made them look funny (imho). And I only remember one Senior Chief at OCS who could put up an Outstanding PRT score.
Generally speaking, Chiefs are very good at what they do. But they are not Marine Corps Drill Instructors.
It's not really the Chief's job at OCS to punish candidates. They're more of the professional/Navy mentor.
Though he didn't put the fear of God in me like some of the DIs could, when our class CPO (Chief Q(AW)) lead the PT, only the SEAL wanna-be in our class could keep up with him. I think at 37-38? he was in better shape than a few of the DIs, including mine.
Though he didn't put the fear of God in me like some of the DIs could, when our class CPO (Chief Q(AW)) lead the PT, only the SEAL wanna-be in our class could keep up with him. I think at 37-38? he was in better shape than a few of the DIs, including mine.
ET-Mike
A-Pool Junkie
No offense taken, and no, I haven't had the Marine DI experience so I guess I am telling tales out of school here but it just angers me that people just accept negative stereotypes for the Navy instead of trying to improve our image.
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I know that is not what you were saying.
Metro-
I know that is not what you were saying.
twidget said:
Yup, my point was that Chiefs (in general) can't and shouldn't do the job of a DI. They are great at what they do, but it ain't being a DI.
You're right about your class CPO. That's the guy. My memory must be a little hazy from all the nights at the bowling alley as a candi-o because I gave him a promotion.
With all do respect, why do you think someone at Great Lakes would have the info on the makeup of OCS in Pensacola? Unless you were hearing this from the most senior levels at Great Lakes, I wouldn't think anyone there is qualified to discuss OCS. Different command, different locations...
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