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Salute this.
- Thread starter Raptor2216
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Since we are on the subject of salutes...
I see a lot of my fellow O's too lazy to return a salute. Especially going through the gate. Does it really put them out to take the two seconds to put on their cover and return the salute to the gate guard. And since most of us drive SUV-tanks nowadays I know it is not a headroom issue.
I see a lot of my fellow O's too lazy to return a salute. Especially going through the gate. Does it really put them out to take the two seconds to put on their cover and return the salute to the gate guard. And since most of us drive SUV-tanks nowadays I know it is not a headroom issue.
Before you go dressing people down, if they have a neatly trimmed beard, they might have a no-shave chit. It's more common amongst black servicemembers.
I've never actually been mistaken for one (since I'm far too young) however all of my Air Force classmates love to point out that when the Ensigns are in their whites... they can't tell the difference between us and one-star admirals.
And OC's look just as similar to them...
So I definatly understand your story!
Yeah, it's tough to tell the difference between the 99% of O-1s with a National Defense medal and an O-7 with a warfare device and a stack of awards...
A no shave chit does not mean groomed to the trend of the week. I know what a no shave chit is
er BUPERS 1000.22b
Action
a. Individuals in a temporary or permanent "no shave" status must
(1) maintain facial hair not to exceed 1/4 inch in length. The beard will not become unkempt in appearance and will not be manicured to any style.
It is just another thing that should be a non issue in the military, and I make sure not to "dress people down" in public. It only takes a minute to pull them aside and see what the issue is.
er BUPERS 1000.22b Action
a. Individuals in a temporary or permanent "no shave" status must
(1) maintain facial hair not to exceed 1/4 inch in length. The beard will not become unkempt in appearance and will not be manicured to any style.
It is just another thing that should be a non issue in the military, and I make sure not to "dress people down" in public. It only takes a minute to pull them aside and see what the issue is.
Maybe not recognizing the "tactical" rank insignia on their shoulders? Depends on where it is... inside the flightline is a no cover zone so don't expect anything in there... Maybe their fear of IPs has subsided and they have recognized that O-3s are JOs like them...
At OCS we were taught to never salute while operating a motor vehicle. I usually just return the greeting.
Technically, you may salute in a vehicle if it is safe to do so. Covering is optional anyway, so it's not something people should be getting worked up about. I like to wave back and issue a friendly verbal greeting.
Brett
I had a just winged AF 1st Lt try to give me a ration of #$%^ because I didn't salute him in the parking lot down here...I literally laughed in his face and carried on.
Technically speaking I may have been in the wrong but seriously...would anyone else???
I hear you with the O-3 thing though. I have seen the same. I think the key is familiarity...If you don't personally know the other JO then you probably ought to whip it out. I've also heard the rule of 2 bantered about. If you are two paygrades lower....out it comes.
In my opinion...the absolutely correct attitude. BZ
That's funny. Air force flight training has faips under O-3 who generally get salutes because they're IP's so maybe that's where they get it. Either way, lame. I wasn't a big fan of saluting faips either.
The day I salute a dirty hinge...