Agree 100%, did primary at North Field and am now at South Field and things are MASSIVELY more relaxed than up north...just take it for what its worth.
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Agree 100%, did primary at North Field and am now at South Field and things are MASSIVELY more relaxed than up north...just take it for what its worth.
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crateofthunder
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I would second the post on getting as much instrument time as possible. That is the hardest part of primary and definately what makes or breaks you. Aero is only like four graded flights and everyone does "well". Best of luck!!
Knew many who did really well in instruments...found it fun...and still did not get a great NSS as a result of FAMs (and those weren't horrible)...if you screw up instruments then yeah it will break you, but if you do well there then it won't reverse an overall average jacket...
I dare repeat Mefesto "instruments is where jet guys get jet grades" in Primary.
Thats fine, I can definitely see that viewpoint, all I am saying is that no one should be counting on Instruments to turn around their grades if things have only gone average up till that time...
just my 2 cents...
best plan would be to use EVERY stage of training as the key to getting jet grades and work for those 5s every time...
I had a pretty high RI NSS and an average contact/PA NSS. Im at south field now. The system is not good for people who start slow. There are just as many contact/PA flights as there are RI. Bottom line you have to work hard and perform all the time.
I went through TW4 at Corpus with ~300 civilian hours (ASEL Instrument). I *was* accelerated -- all of about 4 flights. I think, with weather and whatnot, I still finished at the same time as the rest of my classmates.
What really helped me was previous exposure to ATC and IFR. (The talk-and-fly and think-and-fly aspects of them.) If you already know the basics, then you can use the flight to learn an instructor's sweet little technique that will make your next flight that much easier.
It's like surfing -- paddle your ass off to get in front of the wave, then ride it all the way to the beach, or else paddle half-assed and spend the rest of your time wondering why you're working like a dog and still can't catch up with the guys in front of you.
What really helped me was previous exposure to ATC and IFR. (The talk-and-fly and think-and-fly aspects of them.) If you already know the basics, then you can use the flight to learn an instructor's sweet little technique that will make your next flight that much easier.
It's like surfing -- paddle your ass off to get in front of the wave, then ride it all the way to the beach, or else paddle half-assed and spend the rest of your time wondering why you're working like a dog and still can't catch up with the guys in front of you.
MasterBates
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I was accelerated with ~1000 hours, but no instrument ticket. I had a Commercial Helicopter ticket, and about 50-60 hours in Cessnas and such. RIs kind of sucked for me. I did well, but I had to work harder at that than any other stage.
McCPilot
SNA Final Select
I was just down visiting VT-28 and was told they automatically accelerate anyone with 250+ hours and an instrument ticket. It sounds like each squad has their own "rules". All this info is from a guy currently in VT-28's accelerated program. Sounds like the weather sucks down in Corpus in the winter, no wonder there were always guys at Cruses when I'd fly through.
The site of training makes no difference in selection. Over the long run, Whiting, Corpus and Vance all have the same percentage of selectors for jets, props, and helos. There are lots of rumours to the contrary, none supported by fact.
If you have a choice of what kind of flying to get before heading to OCS, I'll agree with instrument work suggestion. Those skills transfer well to the Navy syllabus and flight training instruction.
My biggest word of advice, when you start flying in Primary, don't assume you know how to do it. Study like you have 0 hours of flight time. Plus, the Navy way is different than the civilian way. Don't fight it. Embrace it
BurghGuy
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I would concur that choice of primary location means nothing compared to how hard you work towards what you want, and how hard your willing to fight for it.
Around the time that I selected out of primary (6-8 weeks ago)there was alot of scuttlebutt going around that guys who went to whiting were getting mostly helos, and corpus were mostly P3s/E2s. (of course this crackpot theory didn't apply for those jet guys). The aparent reasoning was that the Navy beancounters wanted to save money on "logistics" (i.e. moving students alot) One guy even claimed his CO told him that that was the only reason he got P3s instead of helos, because he went to Corpus. Personally, I think thats alot of BS. It got alot of guys worked up over nothing though.
Around the time that I selected out of primary (6-8 weeks ago)there was alot of scuttlebutt going around that guys who went to whiting were getting mostly helos, and corpus were mostly P3s/E2s. (of course this crackpot theory didn't apply for those jet guys). The aparent reasoning was that the Navy beancounters wanted to save money on "logistics" (i.e. moving students alot) One guy even claimed his CO told him that that was the only reason he got P3s instead of helos, because he went to Corpus. Personally, I think thats alot of BS. It got alot of guys worked up over nothing though.
MasterBates
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First, search is your friend. T-34C or T-6 depending on where you go
Second, 500hrs is not going to help that much, outside of radios. I think it may be a hinderance in some ways, having to unlearn what you have learned.
Third, TIMING is everything. If you are not willing to fly helos, you might want to think about it. ~50% of USN Pilots fly helos.
Second, 500hrs is not going to help that much, outside of radios. I think it may be a hinderance in some ways, having to unlearn what you have learned.
Third, TIMING is everything. If you are not willing to fly helos, you might want to think about it. ~50% of USN Pilots fly helos.