Robert Allen
I've fixed them, now I fly them!
In the jet community is putting on LCDR difficult or if you stay out of trouble you pretty much put it on?
I don't believe any promotion beyond LTJG is a 'shoo-in'. For LCDR, in addition to "staying out of trouble", a modicum of proven leadership, and continued performance would be expected to be documented in your FitReps. In aviation units, an O-4 is normally expected to be qualified for assignment of OIC responsibilities leading unit detachments.In the jet community is putting on LCDR difficult or if you stay out of trouble you pretty much put it on?
I thought LT was another auto-promote, or close to it? Am I wrong? What's the saying? To make JG you need a pulse, to make LT you need to be conscious....I don't believe any promotion beyond LTJG is a 'shoo-in'. For LCDR, in addition to "staying out of trouble", a modicum of proven leadership, and continued performance would be expected to be documented in your FitReps. In aviation units, an O-4 is normally expected to be qualified for assignment of OIC responsibilities leading unit detachments.
BzB, prior ET-2 (SS)
*Thinkin' a prior "Tin-Bender" would make a great Wingman!
It's just a saying... You're not wrong. Blowing O-3 would indeed be rare, although I have seen it on a few occasions. I doubt that any sitting selection board member would consider any rank selection as "auto-promote", but for LT, it is close to it!I thought LT was another auto-promote, or close to it? Am I wrong? What's the saying? To make JG you need a pulse, to make LT you need to be conscious....
Depends on the year.In the jet community is putting on LCDR difficult or if you stay out of trouble you pretty much put it on?
In the jet community is putting on LCDR difficult or if you stay out of trouble you pretty much put it on?
Two quick thoughts from the Peanut Gallery:Depends on the year.
Across the Navy the O-4 selection rate was 64% last year. The year before it, and most years in recent history, it was 84%. Like everything else, it's going to depend on luck, and timing.
It's just a saying... You're not wrong. Blowing O-3 would indeed be rare, although I have seen it on a few occasions. I doubt that any sitting selection board member would consider any rank selection as "auto-promote", but for LT, it is close to it!
BzB
That was my impression. Thanks for the insight!Not sure how it used to be, but there is no selection board for O-3. it truly is auto-promote, with only those on legal hold or with some type of special circumstance left behind.
Yeah, the rank is "yours to lose"…and I'm sure there are some that do:Not sure how it used to be, but there is no selection board for O-3. it truly is auto-promote, with only those on legal hold or with some type of special circumstance left behind.
You said shoe.1. I think that putting on LCDR in ANY community is NOT a "shoe in".
If you leave your first fleet squadron (VFA wise) with an MP, the chances of making O4 are not good.
Good gouge here. For VP bubbas during your JO tour, you really need a competitive EP, Mission Commander & Instructor qual to achieve any long-term success in the community. I have seen MANY who did extremely well AFTER their JO tour but did not screen for O4/O5 & Command because of their JO tour performace. That first tour counts a lot . . .No EP as a Lieutenant, no LCDR for you. Oh yeah, you also need to obtain your platform quals as a JO, otherwise you have no chance. I've known a few that did not acheive their Mission Commander and thusly, did not make LCDR.