Debatable. Roger Wilco actually makes sense.
Roger - I've heard you
Wilco - I will comply.
Roger Wilco - I've heard you and will comply
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NEWS Lemoore FA-18 Crash
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Roger - I've heard you
Wilco - I will comply.
Roger Wilco - I've heard you and will comply
Roger - I've heard and understand.
Wilco - I've heard, understand, and will comply.
Roger Wilco - Department of Redundancy Department. "Roger" is implied in "Wilco." You can't follow what you don't understand, you can only make an ass of yourself trying.
As someone much closer to the era from which those phrases originate, I disagree. Your definitions are correct. But you never used "Roger Wilco" as a response to instructions from ATC. "Wilco" implies you heard ATC and understand their instruction, or you would not be in a position to assert compliance. "Roger Wilco" is, in part, redundant. If you mean to communicate your intention to comply with an ATC instruction a simple "Wilco" is appropriate. As an old school traditionalist and stickler for concise communication on the radio, I am making it my personal mission to bring back "Wilco" to common parlance. If you are plying the skies and hear an airline pilot respond with a "Wilco", there is a very high likelihood it is me. Use it all the time.
edit: crap nittany beat my post by seconds.
I flew with a guy who had a Forbidden Phrases list.
"Interrogative" - The English language already has perfectly good ways of conveying the interrogative tense. Saying "interrogative" as well just clobbers the radio and makes you sound like a tool.
"Be advised" - Ditto. If you must convey that information is critical but no immediate action is required, "heads up" sounds better.
"At this time" - That's implied unless you give a different time.
"Interrogative" - The English language already has perfectly good ways of conveying the interrogative tense. Saying "interrogative" as well just clobbers the radio and makes you sound like a tool.
"Be advised" - Ditto. If you must convey that information is critical but no immediate action is required, "heads up" sounds better.
"At this time" - That's implied unless you give a different time.
I use wilco all the time... just not with a preceding roger.
When I was flying with the U-28's in Afghanistan "at this time" was verboten. If you said it, you had to chug a warm O'douls from the DfAC when you got back from the flight.
I'm so happy to read this. I was flying with an instructor the other day who used Interrogative... twice and I couldn't help thinking, "Shit, has ATC never heard my questions all this time? Way to go, CAT 1!"
Lots of this stuff - particularly interrogative - harkens back to the days of crappy HF radios. I've had to phonetically spell out entire sentences over HF before, which blows. In that context, an interrogative can make something easier to pull out of the static when you can only make out every other word. Modern U/VHF comms, not so much.
My on-wing in advanced used "Interrogative" once, but it was because the ground controller was in training and was also an idiot. We were asking if the PAR was still out of service, and she gave us taxi instructions from the run-ups. Then when we clarified, she called it a "par," as in the golf term. Sighing and eye rolling ensued.
"That's a Charlie-Copy" and "Mikes" make Pickle want to choke a bitch...
Be advised, at this time, we are currently...... uhhhhhhhhhhh..... standby.