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USN Junk in NATOPS

Pags

N/A
pilot
I couldn't find ground beef in the Sierra NATOPS but Motorboating" is still in there.
I had forgotten about that one; it was something to do with frequency pairs in the back (ch 15?), right?

Ground beef was something that got in there during an early superhawk and was one of the warnings associated with flying over livestock with an external load. It didn't offend me as a pilot or officer but as a comedian.
 

Sam I am

Average looking, not a farmer.
pilot
Contributor
Can you stop the dump pumps by pulling the CBs in a 46?

Jeez man...I just hit my 20 in the IRR, did the last ever flight in a Navy 46 back in 2005, and now you want to play stump the chump? I'm lucky if I get my shoes on the correct feet these days.

Just kidding...that does ring a bell, but I honestly can't remember. I do remember that you fly a little nose right & tail left on engine failure procedures. Fun fact...the H-46 NATOPS is available on line but I'm not paying to find out I'm wrong.
 

Pags

N/A
pilot
Jeez man...I just hit my 20, did the last ever flight in a Navy 46 back in 2005, and now you want to play stump the chump?

Just kidding...that does ring a bell, but I honestly can't remember. I do remember that you fly a little nose right & tail left on engine failure procedures. Fun fact...the H-46 NATOPS is available on line but I'm not paying to find out I'm wrong.
Bruce would never have accepted that kind of weakness, but I guess it's acceptable for the other half of LF-59. Maybe a week of SDO in khakis will help you strengthen your NATOPS knowledge. ?
 

OldNavy

Registered User
Been a long, long time (1984 ish) but I seem to remember the procedure for a hung data link antennae in the SH-2F was to attempt to land over an open manhole cover to avoid damaging the antenna. The text read "Penetration, however slight, shall constitute the act"

Also, the illustration showing the use of the 3 man troop seat showed the 3 PAX as "See no evil, speak no evil and hear no evil"
 

johnboyA6E

Well-Known Member
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my favorite in the A-6 NATOPS was the section on the pilot's CRT display. it discussed the resolution of the display and the number of "rasters" per inch.
in the glossary, under "width of a raster" it says "one RCH"
also in the glossary, under "RCH" is says "the width of one raster"
 

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
pilot
None
Current UH-60M -10 (our NATOPS)

Definitions: The term AUTOROTATE is defined as adjusting the flight controls as necessary to establish an autororational descent and landing.


9-13. Dual-Engine Failure.
1. AUTOROTATE
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
Current UH-60M -10 (our NATOPS)

Definitions: The term AUTOROTATE is defined as adjusting the flight controls as necessary to establish an autororational descent and landing.
I can't imagine being a fly on the wall during the conference when they decided to put those exact words in your manual. I would have wanted to poke all 4,000 of my eyes out with a tiny sharp object.
 

IKE

Nerd Whirler
pilot
I haven't flown the UH-60M, but the A/L -10 doesn't hold a candle to our NATOPS when it comes to EPs. Each engine EP is its own set of CMIs (there is no EMIF), so you're identifying malfunctions as you fall out of sky. I always felt like the Army 60 manual had barely changed in 40 years.

OTOH, the -10s I've seen have much better systems descriptions and diagrams than our NATOPS. Contrary to some opinions here, I think systems knowledge is what most pilots need on a day-to-day basis when making go/no-go decisions. EPs are great for HAC boards and the one time you need them, but don't forget about the high-probability/low-severity risks of everyday flying.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
I got trained in the MQ-9 Reaper. Manual was about 4 x thickness of my E2 NATOPS from back in the day. Oh my.
 
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