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How to "reinstate" an officer commission

I'm late to the party, but could somebody elaborate on this?

Is the idea that the LT gets reset to the day he put it on and has ~4 years to build up some current paper in his record before getting looked at for O-4?
Yes the idea is that they want to avoid a guy coming back in after a lengthy break, getting looked at for O-4 in the first year or two w/ no recent experience and getting passed over, then forced right back out for failure to advance. So they reset your Date of Rank to the day you sign your new oath, and you have 5 or 6 years to build up a reserve record until you are looked at for LCDR again (I think that’s the timeframe now?).
 

nittany03

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I think you’re holding on a little too tight bro.

@graham , the admin side of the Navy Reserve makes the US Postal Service look like a paragon of lean six sigma and corporate efficiency.
There are aspects of Reserve life that can be an enormous pain in the ass, and I’ve been first in line to bitch about them here and propose fixes. I just roll my eyes at people in the peanut gallery chucking spears and saying “y’all are a bunch of clowns” with no skin in the game.
 

SlickAg

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There are aspects of Reserve life that can be an enormous pain in the ass, and I’ve been first in line to bitch about them here and propose fixes. I just roll my eyes at people in the peanut gallery chucking spears and saying “y’all are a bunch of clowns” with no skin in the game.
I don’t take umbrage at his remarks. He was calling the institution at large a clown show, not taking a shot at you (or me) or anyone else for their continued service.

And the fact that I am having to fax in a signed copy of my orders (including mods) to PERS so they can manually update my point total fornlast year because the anachronistic computer system was unable to realize that I should have gotten 12 points for some orders in December right before my anniversary that were NOT counted...is indicative of a clown show. Not to mention volunteering their people to go fight the Army’s war for them in a struggle to stay relevant. But that’s neither here nor there.
 

graham

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Yes the idea is that they want to avoid a guy coming back in after a lengthy break, getting looked at for O-4 in the first year or two w/ no recent experience and getting passed over, then forced right back out for failure to advance. So they reset your Date of Rank to the day you sign your new oath, and you have 5 or 6 years to build up a reserve record until you are looked at for LCDR again (I think that’s the timeframe now?).
Thank you. I get it now. The "Date of Rank" part is key, because that's just a number in a database that can be changed without breaking anything elsewhere in the system.

It wouldn't have done any good in my case because I'm already 12yrsAD+3yrs IRR, so I could've potentially been HYT'd out at 20 before I even got looked at. :)
 

graham

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There are aspects of Reserve life that can be an enormous pain in the ass, and I’ve been first in line to bitch about them here and propose fixes. I just roll my eyes at people in the peanut gallery chucking spears and saying “y’all are a bunch of clowns” with no skin in the game.
Y'all just put up with WAAAY too much BS, that's all. I FOS'd out because I wouldn't "play the game." The Reserves seems to "the game" on Nightmare Mode. Not for me.

Anyway, the purple wig and red squeaky nose don't look good on me. ;-)
 

SlickAg

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Y'all just put up with WAAAY too much BS, that's all. I FOS'd out because I wouldn't "play the game." The Reserves seems to "the game" on Nightmare Mode. Not for me.

Anyway, the purple wig and red squeaky nose don't look good on me. ;-)
Actually, I’ve found the reserves to consistently have the best leaders I’ve encountered in the Navy.

And the game is pretty simple: everyone makes O-4, pretty much everyone makes O-5, and if you want to do more work for equal pay (command), you have to have some reason to want to do so. I guess that you could do it to pad your resume, but pretty much everyone I’ve seen has done it for the “right” reasons. There’s no pretense; everyone has already quit once and it’s no skin off anyone’s back if you want to do the minimums. The admin processes are awful, but the people are great.

BLAB: the reserves are what I was expecting to find while I was on active duty.
 

nittany03

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Actually, I’ve found the reserves to consistently have the best leaders I’ve encountered in the Navy.

And the game is pretty simple: everyone makes O-4, pretty much everyone makes O-5, and if you want to do more work for equal pay (command), you have to have some reason to want to do so. I guess that you could do it to pad your resume, but pretty much everyone I’ve seen has done it for the “right” reasons. There’s no pretense; everyone has already quit once and it’s no skin off anyone’s back if you want to do the minimums. The admin processes are awful, but the people are great.

BLAB: the reserves are what I was expecting to find while I was on active duty.
It helps that everyone involved (at least SELRES) has already transitioned to civilian life and been de-institutionalized through that. If you're a successful SELRES, you didn't leave active duty like Brooks, you left it like Andy Dufresne. Like you said, we've already quit or been laid off once.

That has the odd effect of both decreasing some of the overall BS factor, while making the remaining admin pain that much more painful. We stay in because we work with civilians who, God bless 'em, don't quite grok the reward we get from still serving. But we also turn around, look at STG3 Fucknuts at the NOSC dorking up an instruction and just generally phoning it in, and think "good God, my company would be bankrupt if we worked this way . . ."

I stay in for my SELRES Sailors and the little bit I still get to do on AT/ADT every year. I tolerate NOSC reindeer games as best I can. Or at least endure them.
 

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I guess that you could do it to pad your resume, but pretty much everyone I’ve seen has done it for the “right” reasons. There’s no pretense; everyone has already quit once and it’s no skin off anyone’s back if you want to do the minimums. The admin processes are awful, but the people are great.
Couldn't have said it better myself, while there is a little bit of pain I have found it to be a pretty damn good time overall...and the retirement at the end of the rainbow will be a nice reminder of it. 😁
 

graham

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Actually, I’ve found the reserves to consistently have the best leaders I’ve encountered in the Navy.

And the game is pretty simple: everyone makes O-4, pretty much everyone makes O-5, and if you want to do more work for equal pay (command), you have to have some reason to want to do so. I guess that you could do it to pad your resume, but pretty much everyone I’ve seen has done it for the “right” reasons. There’s no pretense; everyone has already quit once and it’s no skin off anyone’s back if you want to do the minimums. The admin processes are awful, but the people are great.

BLAB: the reserves are what I was expecting to find while I was on active duty.
This is the impression I had of the Reserves when I was on AD. BL, turns out that not everyone makes O-4, but you don't meet those folks because they disappear and move on with their lives. I only explored the SELRES idea at all because I still have a CAC and convenient access to a USNH so the on-ramp would've been easier. Anyway, thanks for your service, it's 4PM and I know a fat lazy Navy civilian who needs to get going home. :)
 

Hair Warrior

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everyone has already quit once
Like you said, we've already quit or been laid off once.
I get it now. The reserves for URL is a different experience. There are entire sections of the Navy reserves where very few have quit or been laid off - specifically Medical and the IWC. We have several O-6s in our region who were DCO and came in at ENS to the reserves. Also, since these reservists have never been AD (especially JOs), they don’t have anything to compare to.
 
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SlickAg

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This is the impression I had of the Reserves when I was on AD. BL, turns out that not everyone makes O-4, but you don't meet those folks because they disappear and move on with their lives. I only explored the SELRES idea at all because I still have a CAC and convenient access to a USNH so the on-ramp would've been easier. Anyway, thanks for your service, it's 4PM and I know a fat lazy Navy civilian who needs to get going home. :)
Just to clarify, when I said everyone makes O-4, I was talking about the reserves. My SAU is full of dudes who 2xFOS’d for O-4 on active duty, myself included.

The point of my comment about The Game: there isn’t one because everyone is going to be able to make it to retirement if they so choose.
 

nittany03

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Just to clarify, when I said everyone makes O-4, I was talking about the reserves. My SAU is full of dudes who 2xFOS’d for O-4 on active duty, myself included.
There are other communities that aren’t as skewed that way as URL. I seem to recall the 18X5 crowd taking it in the collective shorts a few years ago.

Cut off online contact with an acquaintance of mine who 2xFOSed out of SELRES IDC land when he started cussing me out and calling me a company man for making O-4 . . . I presume after a few too many adult beverages.
 
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