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getting another degree

staff03

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I guess to clear things up I am just looking for all of the possible ways that a guy w/o a tech undergrad degree can work through things to get a tech grad degree AND do something like TPS.
 

FLYTPAY

Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot
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I guess to clear things up I am just looking for all of the possible ways that a guy w/o a tech undergrad degree can work through things to get a tech grad degree AND do something like TPS.
I wouldn't push your OCS back to try and get a Master's. If you do not have a tech undergrad, you are going to have a difficult time competing with the guys that do. Getting a TPS slot is not easy. If you get to fly period, count yourself lucky, if you can manage to get into TPS, consider yourself luckier. About midway through your JO tour you could start a Master's. That would put you finishing it about a year into a shore tour.
 

staff03

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I wouldn't push your OCS back to try and get a Master's. If you do not have a tech undergrad, you are going to have a difficult time competing with the guys that do. Getting a TPS slot is not easy. If you get to fly period, count yourself lucky, if you can manage to get into TPS, consider yourself luckier. About midway through your JO tour you could start a Master's. That would put you finishing it about a year into a shore tour.

I know it is very wishful thinking, for some reason I just like to have all of the info on every possible path my career can take just in case. So if you start a MS midway through JO tour does that leave enough time to still apply for TPS during the last part of your shore tour? And one reason I want a technical grad degree is to make myself more competitive for positions like this one.
 

FLYTPAY

Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot
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I know it is very wishful thinking, for some reason I just like to have all of the info on every possible path my career can take just in case. So if you start a MS midway through JO tour does that leave enough time to still apply for TPS during the last part of your shore tour? And one reason I want a technical grad degree is to make myself more competitive for positions like this one.
JO tour=36 months....start your MS at 18 months and you finish about 6 months into your shore tour, given a 2 year program. You will have what you need to apply but how you fly, and your FITREPS will play heavily into whether you get selected.
 

staff03

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So seeing as how I don't have a technical undergrad, a technical grad degree will take considerably longer. Would it be possible to do some work toward that starting 18 mo. into my JO tour and then apply to NPS or AFIT with at least a bachelor's equivalent in the degree and earn a master's through one of those?
 

Rg9

Registered User
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So seeing as how I don't have a technical undergrad, a technical grad degree will take considerably longer. Would it be possible to do some work toward that starting 18 mo. into my JO tour and then apply to NPS or AFIT with at least a bachelor's equivalent in the degree and earn a master's through one of those?
That might help you get in, but won't help towards the masters itself. AFIT will only take 12 transfer credits, and they can't be used for any other degree (http://www.afit.edu/en/ENY/prospective.cfm).

Here's their specific requirements for the degree I got:

http://www.afit.edu/en/ENY/PDF/Program_Requirements.pdf

Looks like you can set yourself up by taking undergrad courses (or masters courses on your own time before applying), but from reading that stuff it sounds really hard to get into a tech masters w/o a tech BS.

Is it too late for you to switch degrees? If it moves your OCS date back a semester or so it might be worth it. But... to be perfectly honest with you, a tech masters hasn't helped me at all in flying. And I got so sick of it that I have little desire to go to TPS right now. It's lots of very technical stuff (think of a nerd in a flight suit). Tech degrees can help you get jobs out of the Navy, but unless you really like the nerdy stuff, you might want to look more into what TPS is like before doing anything drastic.

Explore these websites for more info:
http://www.afit.edu/
http://www.nps.edu/
 

staff03

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Ya it is way too late to switch degrees now unfortunately. I was really hoping that taking some tech courses before NPS or something would help but it looks like it wont. The NPS-TPS joint program looked interesting. And that tech stuff does interest me although it is very nerdy :icon_wink
 

Rg9

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Ya it is way too late to switch degrees now unfortunately. I was really hoping that taking some tech courses before NPS or something would help but it looks like it wont. The NPS-TPS joint program looked interesting. And that tech stuff does interest me although it is very nerdy :icon_wink
I don't know of an NPS-TPS joint program (although that would be nice... Monterey, CA :) vs. Dayton, OH :(). The AFIT-TPS program is what you'd want, and you'd get the degree I linked the requirements for. I think you have to apply for NPS and TPS separately if you want that route.
 

staff03

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Is it possible to work on another BS during the second half of your first sea duty? I know it would have to be on your own money but is that even possible? Seems like that would allow for time to do other things like the joint program during shore duty??
 

Rg9

Registered User
pilot
Is it possible to work on another BS during the second half of your first sea duty? I know it would have to be on your own money but is that even possible? Seems like that would allow for time to do other things like the joint program during shore duty??
Don't see why not. But, as has been mentioned, if you're doing it on your own time (and $$), you'd probably want to start work on a masters.
 

staff03

New Member
I definitely see the benefits there of just starting on your masters. Somehow I just think that my lack of undergrad classes in a tech field will really hurt me on getting accepted for a masters. Nice to know I can always start over again with another BS :). I will definitely look into all options. By the way, regardless of what degree you work on during the last 18mo of your sea tour, how do you find time and a place to do it?
 

Scoob

If you gotta problem, yo, I'll be part of it.
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By the way, regardless of what degree you work on during the last 18mo of your sea tour, how do you find time and a place to do it?
Now I think you're finally starting to get it.
 

Scoob

If you gotta problem, yo, I'll be part of it.
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Possible?: yes; likely?: no; horse before cart?: absolutely.

Should that discourage you?: no.
 

Rg9

Registered User
pilot
...By the way, regardless of what degree you work on during the last 18mo of your sea tour, how do you find time and a place to do it?
You can find time, but it depends what platform you fly, where you're stationed, if your squadron's deploying, etc. etc. There are just too many variables to account for until you're there. If you're really set on it, you'll want to start early to make sure you have the time to do it. If you're taking evening classes and then, oops, squadron's going on a det for the next 2 weeks, that means missing class (which is why shore tour is a better time to do it). Just be prepared for lots of unknowns, and you'll probably have to stick with correspondence courses for most of what you do during your sea tour.
 
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