FRS for reserve aircraft?

[FLGUY]

So I was thinking the other day, where would somebody go to train if they were transitioning to a reserve squadron that flew aircraft that the active-duty side to the Navy did not have? C-12s, C-40s and the like. Do you just show up and they train you like the RAG/FRS would?

On a similar note, what about Aggressor squadrons and TPS? Do they just provide specific training on their unique aircraft within the respective unit?

 

[armada1651]

Not sure about the VRs but Reserve Hornet guys do a short stint at 106 (the normal Hornet RAG) if they're not still current or Rhino guys. I believe F-5 guys are still doing their initial training at VFC-111 in Key West because 13 is currently without an operable two-seater. BTW, it's adversary in the Navy. Aggressor is the Air Force term.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

C-12 initial training is done with Flight Safety International. Three weeks with civilians.

 

[Gatordev]

C-40 dudes go to Dallas (CAE, I think). There's also squadrons that have their own FRSesses in-house and train their own.

 

[707guy]

C-40 dudes go to Dallas (CAE, I think). There's also squadrons that have their own FRSesses in-house and train their own.

Interesting - figured C-40 bubs could do a "short course" at a P-8 RAG.

 

[Swanee]

Not sure about the VRs but Reserve Hornet guys do a short stint at 106 (the normal Hornet RAG) if they're not still current or Rhino guys. I believe F-5 guys are still doing their initial training at VFC-111 in Key West because 13 is currently without an operable two-seater. BTW, it's adversary in the Navy. Aggressor is the Air Force term.

VMFT-401 does initial F-5 training in Yuma as well. Not sure if any Navy dudes go through that squadron or not though.

 

[AUtiger]

F-5 NATOPS training is done where ever there is a two seater available. Typically squadrons do their own in house unless their bird is going to be hard down for an extended period.

 

[heynowlookout]

Interesting - figured C-40 bubs could do a "short course" at a P-8 RAG.

C-40's have been around a good bit longer than P-8 so the training has been too but perhaps down the road there could be some integration. Probably not though since most VR guys would prefer to stay as far away from VP stupidity as they can.

C-130's is a 3 week course in Ft Worth with civilians then 3 training flights at the squadron.

 

[Flash]

C-40's have been around a good bit longer than P-8 so the training has been too but perhaps down the road there could be some integration. Probably not though since most VR guys would prefer to stay as far away from VP stupidity as they can.

They are also different versions of the same aircraft, may not be cost effective to merge the training.

 

[dustydog]

C-40s are three weeks of sims with FTI utilizing Boeing or CAE sims (site dependent). After that 2 flights and an instrument check the you are cleared for IOE.

We want to stay as far away from the P-8 stupidity as possible.

 

[CommodoreMid]

But but but VP-30 knows everything!

 

[707guy]

C-40's have been around a good bit longer than P-8 so the training has been too but perhaps down the road there could be some integration. Probably not though since most VR guys would prefer to stay as far away from VP stupidity as they can.

True - thought that maybe with P-8 coming online that the training would have been merged.

We want to stay as far away from the P-8 stupidity as possible.

Can't blame you - four years at VX-1 and I still didn't quite "get" the VP mentality.

 

[Flash]

True - thought that maybe with P-8 coming online that the training would have been merged.

It may never be merged, not only do they fly different versions of the aircraft the training priorities may conflict enough that it would ineffiecent for the VR folks to be trained at VP-30. I imagine the VP folks would put the VR guys at the bottom of the priority list, not even sure they even have the right sims.

 

[webmaster]

I recall the training department getting inquiries about available 73 SIM time and if any could be purchased when the building went up and the new sims were getting installed. The P3 SIMs were leased out to other countries and organizations, I would be surprised if any excess capacity in the 73 wasn't treated the same.

 

[Flash]

I recall the training department getting inquiries about available 73 SIM time and if any could be purchased when the building went up and the new sims were getting installed. The P3 SIMs were leased out to other countries and organizations, I would be surprised if any excess capacity in the 73 wasn't treated the same.

Are they going to be fully certified sims like the ones the airlines use? I remember several Navy sims not being the same as airline ones WRT to certification and capability. And since it is a different type would they be able to be used as 737 and not just P-8 sims?