Flight Pay Changes

[xj220]

Arguably the best Police album.

 

[Jim123]

I read it with a hard c, because "mediocrity" was the first word that came to mind when I read "TACRON."

 

[sevenhelmet]

Confirmed from several different sources now, no flight pay increase until sometime between March and never.

Let me be at least the third person here to say, the Navy missed a golden fucking opportunity to reverse at least a small part of the negative QoL story that- along with airline hiring- has been driving people toward the door.

Now I get to clarify this with my squadron, since I sent it out banking on the DFAS website... my bad. Happy Monday!

 

[tarjas]

Par for the course. Kinda like the 40% reduction in COLA at Yokosuka that kicked in 01 Jan with no messaging at all from leadership... Thankfully moral is already off the chart out here..../s

 

[croakerfish]

Par for the course. Kinda like the 40% reduction in COLA at Yokosuka that kicked in 01 Jan with no messaging at all from leadership... Thankfully moral is already off the chart out here..../s

Wow that is some bullshit.

 

[EODDave]

I hear other changes to flight pay are coming in the near future (year or so). Basically was told by a guy at the bureau, if you are not in a job actually flying, then no flight pay.

I really hope this turns out to be bullshit and is just bad gouge floating around.

 

[DanMa1156]

Confirmed from several different sources now, no flight pay increase until sometime between March and never.

Let me be at least the third person here to say, the Navy missed a golden fucking opportunity to reverse at least a small part of the negative QoL story that- along with airline hiring- has been driving people toward the door.

Now I get to clarify this with my squadron, since I sent it out banking on the DFAS website... my bad. Happy Monday!

I admittedly have to do the same. Do you have it in writing / where's your source for this?

 

[MIDNJAC]

I hear other changes to flight pay are coming in the near future (year or so). Basically was told by a guy at the bureau, if you are not in a job actually flying, then no flight pay.

I really hope this turns out to be bullshit and is just bad gouge floating around.

Smart move. Alienate the exact people, that percentage wise are 1) in not actually flying jobs and 2) are the body pool the DH slate needs to pull from.

 

[Brett327]

I hear other changes to flight pay are coming in the near future (year or so). Basically was told by a guy at the bureau, if you are not in a job actually flying, then no flight pay.

I really hope this turns out to be bullshit and is just bad gouge floating around.

I think that's extremely unlikely. The momentum in compensation, bonuses and similar policy initiatives are moving toward increases, not reductions.

 

[sevenhelmet]

I admittedly have to do the same. Do you have it in writing / where's your source for this?

Not yet. I can't find anything on the NPC website (standard!), and my question to PERS-435 has gone unanswered so far. Nothing but anecdotal evidence to suggest March, and I won't send out an email without anything firm. I did pass the word to the other hinges and the front office today that, no, we won't see a bump on our next paycheck.

 

[dodge]

I think that's extremely unlikely. The momentum in compensation, bonuses and similar policy initiatives are moving toward increases, not reductions.

I hope you're right. Otherwise, of all the dumb, short-sighted 'good ideas' I've observed over the years, I'd consider that to be near peak-stupid.

 

[insanebikerboy]

I just did rough math using the mid-month pay stub off of MyPay and it would appear that the flight pay bump has not occurred, assuming my mid-month and end of month pay are about the same.

 

[RobLyman]

I just did rough math using the mid-month pay stub off of MyPay and it would appear that the flight pay bump has not occurred, assuming my mid-month and end of month pay are about the same.

Same here on the Army side. The only change I see is due to the small cost of living increase (I assume). I don't have a detailed break down yet o my LES, just net pay.

 

[EODDave]

So, asked again and here is what I got. Expect the increased monthly flight pay in the next few months. There will be caveats. The max amount for each year blocks will ONLY be paid to those who are still “on track”. When one strays off track by his or her own choice or things just don’t work out, expect your flight pay to decrease or go away. The “off track” jobs are still being decided by those at the bureau as is the amount of decreased and no flight pay for each of those jobs. These decreased/no flight pay off track jobs will be used to fund the flight pay for those “on track”. This is kind of like the bonus tiers for different platforms.

If this no kidding happens, it will just be another reason for guys to bail. I am so glad I am retiring. Man, I swear, the Navy can fuck up a wet dream sometimes.

 

[fc2spyguy]

So, asked again and here is what I got. Expect the increased monthly flight pay in the next few months. There will be caveats. The max amount for each year blocks will ONLY be paid to those who are still “on track”. When one strays off track by his or her own choice or things just don’t work out, expect your flight pay to decrease or go away. The “off track” jobs are still being decided by those at the bureau as is the amount of decreased and no flight pay for each of those jobs. These decreased/no flight pay off track jobs will be used to fund the flight pay for those “on track”. This is kind of like the bonus tiers for different platforms.

If this no kidding happens, it will just be another reason for guys to bail. I am so glad I am retiring. Man, I swear, the Navy can fuck up a wet dream sometimes.

This doesn't really affect me, as I'm already bailing this year with retirement letter going up the COC. Odd note there, my detailer informed me it was with the education office, WTF do they get a chop on my retirement for? I would think any MSR would have been adjusted already. Regardless, I think this increase will do two things. 1)Give away free money to people who are staying anyways 2) If true about the "off track" push more people out. Either way, enjoy the money to those who get it! I recommend for the helo guys to use the extra money and rent a Cessna and build some hours for the regionals when your MSR is up

On an semi-related note. In a squadron I saw a poster of an ERJ cockpit cutout with a regional carrier name listed on it. If that doesn't tell you the state of rotary wing aviation, then you're blind as a bat.