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ASTB-E/APEX 4 Experience -DEC 2013

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niner61

AimingHigh
I'll be emailing my LT in the coming weeks to schedule the retake. I am NROTC, if that changes anything. I know there fewer slots for OCS, STA-21 than there for USNA and ROTC MIDN. There was a post last year around August that stated the number of SNA/SNFO slots that were to be filled for '14 grads. USNA and NROTC number were almost identical (somewhere around 230 SNA slots). I am wondering if anyone has those stats for '15 grads, or trends? I guess OCS slots have been cut down a bit recently.

And YES! I am a 49ers fan....I don't know why, but I just have to mention that if we could have Alex Smith back, I would take him in a heartbeat. I always said and always will.:(
 
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exNavyOffRec

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niner61 said:
I'll be emailing my LT in the coming weeks to schedule the retake. I am NROTC, if that changes anything. I know there fewer slots for OCS, STA-21 than there for USNA and ROTC MIDN.
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OCS is a surge volume, basically short term corrections in accessions, on average it is fairly even numbers, this year the USNA sent about 230 to SNA and OCS around 300 I believe.
 
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Mr Spenz

"Your brief saved your flight' - every IP
pilot
niner61 said:
I'll be emailing my LT in the coming weeks to schedule the retake. I am NROTC, if that changes anything. I know there fewer slots for OCS, STA-21 than there for USNA and ROTC MIDN. There was a post last year around August that stated the number of SNA/SNFO slots that were to be filled for '14 grads. USNA and NROTC number were almost identical (somewhere around 230 SNA slots). I am wondering if anyone has those stats for '15 grads, or trends? I guess OCS slots have been cut down a bit recently.

And YES! I am a 49ers fan....I don't know why, but I just have to mention that if we could have Alex Smith back, I would take him in a heartbeat. I always said and always will.:(
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Go Seahawks!
 
sharkbait1

sharkbait1

Well-Known Member
pilot
Hi all,
I've been following this site and thread for some time now. I'm scheduled to take the ASTB-E in a month, and have been studying (I hope effectively) with a lot of help from the gouge here. Looking to go SNA/SNFO. I am glad to share my experiences and how well my studying prepares me for the exam.

I'm still a bit unsure of the parking lot/uav portion. I saw one of the other study guides on here that someone took the time to make, but it seemed to get past me a bit. What methods/study aids worked for you guys/gals? Or is it simply a directional awareness type of section, which you either intuitively understand or not?

Thanks,
Vid
 
Lore

Lore

We should work on your sense of humor, brother.
mrvid said:
Hi all,
I'm still a bit unsure of the parking lot/uav portion. I saw one of the other study guides on here that someone took the time to make, but it seemed to get past me a bit. What methods/study aids worked for you guys/gals? Or is it simply a directional awareness type of section, which you either intuitively understand or not?
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I did not use a study guide for this bit, and I don't actually know of one that exists, but a lot of it is intuitive in the sense that it helps if you have built up an ability to recognize perspective based on directional cues from a map. If you have played video games for most of your life it will be much easier, because it is similar to having a map inset on your main screen. This really could be true of a ground based shooter game, RTS or flight based game, though I think the flight based games are closest in comparison for obvious reasons. It also helps if you have studied maps or are good at interpreting them. There is nothing complicated about this exercise, but a trained and discerning eye will serve you best.

The map side of the screen never changes, the top is always north. What changes is the red arrow indicating the view from your UAV. The picture of this view is displayed on the right as it would look if you were a couple hundred feet up in the air above the hospital. The four parking lots correspond to the N,S,E,W directions and you have to identify the parking lot in the view section that the computer tells you to. It gets tricky because the view rotates based on the new direction of the arrow on the map. An easy example would be: the directional arrow on the map is pointing straight east (so your view shows a parking lot directly in front of you, one across from the hospital but still directly in your path and parking lots on the left and right sides of the hospital.)

If you are told to "image the East parking lot", you would pick .... ?
 

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Lore

Lore

We should work on your sense of humor, brother.
You would choose "top" parking lot, as that direction corresponds to east based on your indicated approach. This is exactly what the questions look and sound like, but the approach angles are varied; they do not always give you the easier, straight-on views such as this. Most times they come from a SE, NE, SW, NW angle which can be a bit more confusing. One parking lot has cars in it, though I did not pay attention to see if this was always the south parking lot or something... I want to say that the parking lot with the cars changed each time, so you can't use that as a reference. Also, in the actual test portion the North indicator will not be present in the map pane. Not that you really need it, since you always know top is North. Also the arrow I included in the UAV perspective pane below is never shown in the practice examples or the test. I put that in for your reference here.

Hope this sheds some light, though I don't know where you could find similar study options.
 

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speedroller

speedroller

Rangers
TCooke said:
The joystick was the most difficult section for me. I had no problem following the plane vertically... however I felt that most of the time I was chasing the plane.... not following the plane! When combining the throttle and joystick I found myself panicking. Things became difficult very quickly and it took me a few seconds to really get my composure during the practice test. I have had experience with flight simulators and this was unlike anything I have ever seen... Adding the DLT to the mix made things a little bit harder but I found myself becoming more comfortable as time went on. I managed to get all three emergency procedures in the allotted amount of time. The first one was an engine fire, then engine malfunction, and I believe the last one had something to do with the propeller.

I still have not gotten my results as the proctor told me that he would email them… I will post them as soon as I find out.
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What is the video that you are talking about? I am interested in this.
 
Hopeful Hoya

Hopeful Hoya

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pilot
Contributor
Hey Gents, you think ~10 days is enough time to study for the test if I do 1-2 hours each day? I've always done pretty well on standardized tests and I'm a quick learner, but just wanted to see what you think. I just figured it might be nice to get it out of the way before I go back to school.
 
speedroller

speedroller

Rangers
Hopeful Hoya said:
Hey Gents, you think ~10 days is enough time to study for the test if I do 1-2 hours each day? I've always done pretty well on standardized tests and I'm a quick learner, but just wanted to see what you think. I just figured it might be nice to get it out of the way before I go back to school.
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It really depends on yourself, if you feel confident that you can refresh yourself on all the topics and do well on the actual test, then yes. Because at that point you will see whether, you are feeling good about this or not. There have been some individuals here who simply reviewed the context the night before. I would certainly not rush this operation, since you want to do well.
My own approach to this is, I am taking 2h out of my time three or four times a week for the next month. This way I can make sure, I am solid. But time will only tell if I feel ready or not.
Hope this helps.
 
Lore

Lore

We should work on your sense of humor, brother.
Hopeful Hoya said:
Hey Gents, you think ~10 days is enough time to study for the test if I do 1-2 hours each day? I've always done pretty well on standardized tests and I'm a quick learner, but just wanted to see what you think. I just figured it might be nice to get it out of the way before I go back to school.
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Yeah, it really depends on how competent you think that you are with the material. If you have recently taken a number of technical classes and the material is fresh, then maybe you will not need as long. It is hard to say really, but if you can do 2 solid hours a day for 10 days, that should be a really good basis.

To be honest, I found that there really was not all that much to study, since many of the concepts are repeated or variations on one another (at least regarding math, physics and reading). Aviation/Nautical knowledge is a different matter though. I would put at least 30% of your effort in that category if you feel confident with what you know will be in the other sections.
 
Hopeful Hoya

Hopeful Hoya

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pilot
Contributor
Sounds good guys, thanks for the heads up. I have the ATSB-E book and the gouge packet from earlier in the thread so I guess I'll just work through those and see how I feel.
 
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