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F-35B/C Lightning II (Joint Strike Fighter)

navyao

Registered User
Are you confusing something with VFC-111? Only Navy squadron (including their storied lineage..) that sported shark mouths....I think.

Spike,

He was talking about this...IMHO, the best looking scheme ever painted on any of VF-101's jets. Okay, back to F-35 stuff, don't want to turn this into a Tomcat thread.

f-14d_vf-101_716.jpeg
 

navyao

Registered User
Some F-35A/B/C update info I received from an AO friend of mine. Most of you may already know a lot of this stuff but I figured what the hell. Looks like they figured out a way to put a hook on it finally.


F-35 Flight Test Update 9
By Sydney Carroll Posted 30 October 2012

The F-35 Flight Test Update in the Volume 27, Number 2 issue of Code One concluded with the record-setting month of June 2012 with the Integrated Test Force completing 114 test flights and 1,118 test points. Since then, the team set new records of 135 System Development and Demonstration, or SDD, flights for 239 SDD flight hours and more than 1,100 test points in August 2012. With training pilot checkouts at Eglin AFB, Florida, and test pilot qualifications at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, fifty-four pilots have now flown the F-35 Lightning II.
Weapon testing has progressed since the last issue as F-35 pilots dropped the program’s first 1,000- and 2,000-pound inert Joint Direct Attack Munitions, or JDAMs, and the first AIM-120 AMRAAM separation test was carried out. The team also completed airstart testing for the F-35A and F-35B variants to collect critical data for upcoming high angle of attack tests. Through 20 October 2012, the F-35 program had accrued 986 test flights for more than 7,800 test points in 2012.
9 July 2012: First F-35B Night Flight

US Marine Corps pilot Maj. Richard Rusnok took off in F-35B BF-2 at 9:57 p.m. EDT for the B-model’s first night flight. The one-hour flight from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, in BF-2 evaluated the aircraft’s exterior lighting. It was Flight 204 for BF-2.
17 July 2012: First F-35C Flight With Block 2A Software

The first F-35C test mission with updated Block 2A software was piloted by Navy Lt. Chris Tabert in F-35C CF-3 for 1.1 hours from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. Block 2A software provides additional capabilities for the F-35, such as the Multifunction Advanced Datalink, the current Link-16, maintenance datalink, and a mission debriefing system. The mission marked CF-3 Flight 68.
27 July 2012: F-35A Airstart Testing Complete

Lockheed Martin test pilot David Nelson completed airstart testing in F-35A AF-4 during Flight 131 over the Edwards AFB, California, test range. The 2.3-hour mission included the final four required airstarts, a critical step prior to the start of high angle of attack tests.
1 August 2012: First Air-To-Air MADL Exchange

F-35As AF-3 and AF-6 accomplished a high data rate exchange with the first F-35 air-to-air communication over the Multifunction Advanced Datalink, or MADL. Air Force Lt. Col. George Schwartz flew AF-3 on Flight 128 for two hours from Edwards AFB, California. Mark Ward piloted the 1.8-hour AF-6 Flight 104.
7 August 2012: First F-35B Airstart Mission

Marine Corps Lt. Col. Matt Kelly piloted the three first F-35B engine spooldowns over the Edwards AFB, California, test range to signal the beginning of F-35B airstart testing. The 1.3-hour mission marked F-35B BF-2 Flight 212.
8 August 2012: First Weapons Separation

Flying at 400 knots at 4,200 feet altitude in F-35B BF3, Lockheed Martin test pilot Dan Levin dropped an inert 1,000-pound GBU-32 JDAM over the Atlantic test range. The 0.8-hour mission was the F-35 program’s first weapon separation. The milestone flight was BF-3 Flight 224.
10 August 2012: First F-35C Fly-In Arrestment

Navy Lt. Chris Tabert accomplished the first fly-in arrestment into the MK-7 arresting gear cable by an F-35C at JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, New Jersey. Using an interim arresting hook system, an engineering team composed of F-35 Joint Program Office, Naval Air Systems Command, and industry officials conducted tests to assess cable dynamics, aircraft loads, and performance on F-35C CF-3. During testing, Tabert achieved five of eight attempts into the arresting gear. Completing these tests enabled the F-35 program to improve the redesigned arresting hook system. Engineering design reviews will continue, culminating in initial sea trials projected for spring 2014.
13 August 2012: New Record 19 Flights In One Day

The F-35 program set a new record of nineteen flights in one day in production flights and test flights at five bases across the United States. F-35s were flown from Edwards AFB, California; NAS Patuxent River, Maryland; JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, New Jersey; NAS Fort Worth JRB, Texas; and Eglin AFB, Florida.
15 August 2012: F-35B Airstarts Complete

Lockheed Martin test pilot Dan Canin piloted F-35B BF-2 for Flight 217 to perform the F-35B’s final airstart test mission. Pilots accomplished twenty-seven F-35B airstarts over the Edwards AFB, California, test range to complete the prerequisite for next year’s F-35B high angle of attack tests.
17 August 2012: BF-2 Returns To Pax

The F-35B test aircraft BF-2 was ferried back to NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, with Dan Canin at the controls following the completion of airstart testing. After an overnight stop at NAS Fort Worth JRB, Texas, Canin completed the trip from Edwards AFB, California, with 3.4-hour BF-2 Flight 219.
22 August 2012: F-35B Formation Flight

Marine Corps Maj. C. R. Clift and Navy Lt. Cmdr. Michael Burks flew F-35B test aircraft BF-2 and BF-4 in formation over the Atlantic Test Range. The flight, which originated from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, tested formation flying qualities at subsonic and supersonic speeds to provide data on F-35B handling characteristics. The 1.9-hour mission marked BF-2 Flight 221 and BF-4 Flight 130.
22 August 2012: 20,000th Test Point Complete

The SDD team accomplished 20,000 test points since the beginning of the test program with two F-35A test flights at Edwards AFB, California, and three F-35B test flights at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. The overall F-35 SDD flight test program plan calls for 59,585 test points to be verified through developmental test flights by 31 December 2016.
23 August 2012: 1,000th F-35A Test Flight

The F-35A test fleet marked the program’s 1,000th conventional takeoff and landing test flight during three test missions at Edwards AFB, California.
27 August 2012: F-35B Radar Cross Section Testing Complete

Marine Corps Maj. Richard Rusnok piloted F-35B BF-5 for a 1.2-hour flight to complete baseline testing of the aircraft’s radar cross section on a series of flights from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. The flight marked BF-5 Flight 51.
31 August 2012: New Flight Test Records

The F-35 test team accomplished 135 SDD flights for 239 SDD flight hours and more than 1,100 test points for a record-setting month in August.
12 September 2012: Five Jets Airborne At Pax

The Integrated Test Force at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, flew five simultaneous test missions: F-35B BF-2, BF-3, BF-4, and BF-5; and F-35C CF-2.
13 September 2012: 2,000 F-35A Flight Hours

The F-35 program’s 2,000th F-35A conventional takeoff and landing test flight hour on a 1.9-hour mission systems sortie occurred in F-35A AF-7 on its 123rd flight. Air Force Maj. Eric Schultz was at the controls for the milestone flight from Edwards AFB, California.
24 September 2012: External Weapons Formation Flight

Air Force Maj. Eric Schultz and Maj. Brent Reinhardt flew F-35A aircraft AF-1 and AF-2 in formation with external inert AIM-9X missiles. The 1.3-hour test flight measured formation flying qualities. The sorties, AF-1 Flight 250 and AF-2 Flight 279, originated from Edwards AFB, California.
4 October 2012: Pax Adds A Pilot

Marine Corps Capt. Michael Kingen joined the test pilot roster at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, with his 0.9-hour check flight. The first flight for the fifty-fourth F-35 pilot was F-35C CF-3 Flight 85.
4 October 2012: Production Jet Joins Pax Fleet

An F-35 production jet landed at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, for the first time when F-35B BF-17 was ferried from NAS Fort Worth JRB, Texas, with Bill Gigliotti at the controls. BF-17 will temporarily support the Integrated Test Force at Pax until it joins the Operational Test team at Edwards AFB, California. The 3.1-hour ferry flight marked BF-17 Flight 8.
16 October 2012: First F-35A Weapon Release

The F-35A completed the conventional takeoff and landing variant’s first inflight weapon release at China Lake, California. The weapon release followed the first F-35B weapon release in August. Air Force Maj. Eric Schultz released an inert, instrumented 2,000-pound GBU-31 from the aircraft’s left weapon bay over the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division ranges. The 1.3-hour mission, originating from Edwards AFB, California, marked F-35A AF-1 Flight 254.
19 October 2012: First F-35 AMRAAM Jettison

F-35A test aircraft AF-1 accomplished another testing milestone with the program’s first aerial release of an AIM-120 AMRAAM. Air Force Maj. Matthew Phillips jettisoned the instrumented AIM-120 from the aircraft’s internal weapon bay over the Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division test range at China Lake, California, during a one-hour mission. AF-1 Flight 255 originated from Edwards AFB, California.​
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
F-35B in Yuma for VMFA-121 redesignation ceremony. I believe three were suppose to make the trip for today's ceremony. VMFA-121 is suppose to IOC in 2015. Hope it stays on track...

S/F
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
One got here on Friday. The other two will land here in a few minutes. These are deliveries, not just here for the shindig.
Well, they are deliveries that will go straight back in Mod. Let us know when you see them in the pattern there at NYL.

I'm pretty sure MAG-11 had to supply the Hornets to escort them to Yuma. Currently, when it IOC's in 2015, it will only be able to drop an LGB or JDAM and fire an AIM-120. The squadron isn't suppose to be FOC until 2017, when it replaces 242 in Japan. At least per the current (rough) AvPlan. Again, I hope it stays on track...the current MC pointy nose fleet is struggling.

One thing I'll be interested in seeing is the cross-country rules that will be placed on the F-35B/C. I think the days of going into civilian fields & FBO's will be over.

S/F
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
Well, they are deliveries that will go straight back in Mod. Let us know when you see them in the pattern there at NYL.

Well, they came into the overhead all three times, so they've already been in the pattern here, but point taken.

FWIW, I was given a short approach because "traffic to follow an F-35 at eight miles for the overhead", which I think was the first time that was said over Yuma Approach.

I'm pretty sure MAG-11 had to supply the Hornets to escort them to Yuma. Currently, when it IOC's in 2015, it will only be able to drop an LGB or JDAM and fire an AIM-120. The squadron isn't suppose to be FOC until 2017, when it replaces 242 in Japan. At least per the current (rough) AvPlan. Again, I hope it stays on track...the current MC pointy nose fleet is struggling.

I know that the hornets that escorted them were from -101, but I'm not really sure why. They were two seaters, so it wasn't a fuel issue (plus they had a tanker).

Your timeline seems off from the stated plan, but I honestly haven't looked at it in awhile so you may be right. Even if it's NOT the plan, you may still be right.

One thing I'll be interested in seeing is the cross-country rules that will be placed on the F-35B/C. I think the days of going into civilian fields & FBO's will be over.

S/F

I think that's a safe bet, at least for now. ALIS is going to make that problematic, to say nothing of security.
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
Well, they came into the overhead all three times, so they've already been in the pattern here, but point taken.

FWIW, I was given a short approach because "traffic to follow an F-35 at eight miles for the overhead", which I think was the first time that was said over Yuma Approach.

I know that the hornets that escorted them were from -101, but I'm not really sure why. They were two seaters, so it wasn't a fuel issue (plus they had a tanker).

Your timeline seems off from the stated plan, but I honestly haven't looked at it in awhile so you may be right. Even if it's NOT the plan, you may still be right.

I think that's a safe bet, at least for now. ALIS is going to make that problematic, to say nothing of security.

Two seaters are so an F-35 guy can ride in the back as a book reader. That, and they need someone to squawk for them at the moment. CMC stated today that FOC was going to be 2015, but every AVPLAN I've seen has said 2017 for the 31st/UDP/Japan move. They're going to be flying throughout December in Yuma, but it's mostly FCFs and fams. Regular cross-countries to civilian fields are going to be a thing of the past. Pretty much how the USAF treats them now with their planes.

/World's most expensive day, VFR airplane... for now.
 

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
I've never seen AF jets at FBOs - seen lots of Navy/MC. Do they have different rules? (Well, obviously they do, but does anyone know them?)
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
Two seaters are so an F-35 guy can ride in the back as a book reader. That, and they need someone to squawk for them at the moment. CMC stated today that FOC was going to be 2015, but every AVPLAN I've seen has said 2017 for the 31st/UDP/Japan move. They're going to be flying throughout December in Yuma, but it's mostly FCFs and fams. Regular cross-countries to civilian fields are going to be a thing of the past. Pretty much how the USAF treats them now with their planes.

/World's most expensive day, VFR airplane... for now.


90% of what's limiting it at the moment is bureaucratic idiocy and CANT manual bullshit rather than laws of physics issues. The squawk thing is a prime example.

This too shall pass.
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
I've never seen AF jets at FBOs - seen lots of Navy/MC. Do they have different rules? (Well, obviously they do, but does anyone know them?)

It more boils down to their treatment of sensitive material. Rather than the Navy/MC lalalala-stick-your-fingers-in-your-ears method of dealing with AMUs/DSUs and WMCs loaded (or once-loaded) with crypto or other restricted material, they take it a little more seriously.
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
90% of what's limiting it at the moment is bureaucratic idiocy and CANT manual bullshit rather than laws of physics issues. The squawk thing is a prime example.

This too shall pass.
Well, I'd say most of what's truly limiting the F-35 right now is the computer software not being anywhere near complete. What the MC says is "FOC" and what will truly be "FOC" is two different spins within the halls of the Pentagon. The F-35 will not be "FOC" until FY17... and with the current budget issues, maybe that will be wishful thinking. That is from the latest Air Boss brief.

Shit's happening fast and furious though...the F-35 is too big to fail and the MC will ensure that it doesn't. For the sake of the MC and it's tacair future, it better not fail. But hey, at least the draft F-35 T&R was sent out a few weeks ago...

S/F
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
It more boils down to their treatment of sensitive material. Rather than the Navy/MC lalalala-stick-your-fingers-in-your-ears method of dealing with AMUs/DSUs and WMCs loaded (or once-loaded) with crypto or other restricted material, they take it a little more seriously.
I believe it will be allowed to hit the airshow roadshow, especially in the next couple years while it can't do anything tactical. Just like today's appearance in Yuma, it'll be a "good news story" while on the airshow scene that will help the program.
 
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