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Who wants to be an NFO?
- Thread starter FlyHopeful
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Just because they are senior on the site does not make my post less valuable. I understand seniority on the Internet. But just because I have not been on this forum a long time does not mean I haven't been in the military a long time. However I do understand your points.
I'm not trying to win. Really I'm not even sure what we are arguing about. I would put wings above my avatar but I didn't feel the need to. Well also because I don't know how.
Flathatter13
Banned
Do a search the webmaster has a thread that describes it.
Woke up today (*phew*) and this thread was closed.
For the record --- this is how much I "detest" NFO's ....
Amigos, shipmates, and pals forever.
For the record --- this is how much I "detest" NFO's ....
Amigos, shipmates, and pals forever.
Flying Low: I will apologize for calling your wife a cunt and admit that it was too harsh. But I am only apologizing for the wording of my post, not the meaning.
I will accept pilot-NFO banter/bashing from a winged military pilot or even a warfare qualified officer from another community (i.e. SWO) as long as it is good natured and meant in fun. I won't accept it from a wanna-be much less a spouse who's only connection to Naval Aviation is their husband/wife. Once you brought your wife into this, you made her a target. Granted, I could have used a pistol instead of a nuke but discretion has never been one of my strong points.
I now know you are in fact a Naval Aviator and currently an IP. If you updated your profile to make it meaningful, it might change the type of responses you get. Your elusive responses about your status just flame the fire too.
For the record: I am not the one who banned Flying Low.
I will accept pilot-NFO banter/bashing from a winged military pilot or even a warfare qualified officer from another community (i.e. SWO) as long as it is good natured and meant in fun. I won't accept it from a wanna-be much less a spouse who's only connection to Naval Aviation is their husband/wife. Once you brought your wife into this, you made her a target. Granted, I could have used a pistol instead of a nuke but discretion has never been one of my strong points.
I now know you are in fact a Naval Aviator and currently an IP. If you updated your profile to make it meaningful, it might change the type of responses you get. Your elusive responses about your status just flame the fire too.
For the record: I am not the one who banned Flying Low.
There ... something "new" from an "ol" guy ...
RE-OPENED ... as I 'think" everyone's got all the negative vibrations OUT of their systems ... to mutually bash NFO's and Aviators -- and we KNOW what we're talkin' about -- -- so for those who don't --- i.e., wannabe's and SNA's/SNFO's ---- tread lightly ... better yet -- stay away.
'Cause in your present state --- you're clueless ....
RE-OPENED ... as I 'think" everyone's got all the negative vibrations OUT of their systems ... to mutually bash NFO's and Aviators -- and we KNOW what we're talkin' about --
-- so for those who don't --- i.e., wannabe's and SNA's/SNFO's ---- tread lightly ... better yet -- stay away. 'Cause in your present state --- you're clueless ....
WVUBetaHornet
Sweep the leg..
Haha, WOW...I missed quite a battle while
I was away all day...classic AW.
Love this place, keep on keepin on gentlemen!
I was away all day...classic AW.
Love this place, keep on keepin on gentlemen!
A great thread! Couple of questions for you gents..If an NFO can log traps, can I count the one while sitting backwards in the COD? and if an NFO can say that he flys an F-18 or an A6, can my old stews say they fly a 767? Inquiring minds want to know.
Hey...it`s a joke!
Hey...it`s a joke!
HEY !!! My 747 HAGS thought they did ... until I made them cry .... whatever; it's a joke, yes ???
phrogpilot73
Well-Known Member
I was going to bash some FO's today, then I saw Flying Low got banned - so I figured I'd keep my mouth shut.
Smart move....a LTJG should be seen and not heard. Get a little rank and we'll let you talk again.I was going to bash some FO's today, then I saw Flying Low got banned - so I figured I'd keep my mouth shut.
Smart move....a LTJG should be seen and not heard. Get a little rank and we'll let you talk again.
Exactly HAL, I don't know why we let these LtJg Dept of Transpor... I mean Homeland Security wannabes run roughshod on an honorable website like AW.
Um, Ok. But I don't wanna do it by myself.
Do you count your landings when you fly as an FE? All I was trying to get at is... Well I guess if you didn't get it the first time you wont. My aircrew don't count traps because, well because they don't. I think they just care about how many traps their pilot that day has.
Counting traps is not a valid measure of an NFO's experience. Years of service, flight hours, # of cruises, qualification levels, etc. What happens to an NFO to Pilot transition, does he get to pick up his trap count where he left off? Sorry you and I don't agree, but I will always laugh at an NFO strutting around a centurion patch, It is a waste of thread...But I will respect their missile shot patches because I know that they employ the weapon systems. See the diff?
I'll initially caveat this statement with an acknowledgment that not all NFOs are front seat types with co-pilot duties. That said, number of traps is a measurement of experience behind the boat. If it's a valid metric for Pilots, then it applies for NFOs. Show me an NFO with 1000 traps vs one that has none, both with an equal number of flight hours, and I'll show you, on balance a better NFO (at the boat) - same deal for pilots. Bottom line, it's a measure of experience at the boat, regardless of designator. To discount it, out of hand, is just ignorance.
Brett