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What is it like to be an NFO?

Brett327

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In all honesty, out side of the Guns and Accoustic/FLIR systems, a lot of out AW's don't know jack about the helo. When they stopped making AW's become Plane Captains, I saw the non-AW-specific knoweldge about the Aircraft drop waaaaay down.

Wow, when did they stop doing that?

Brett
 

MasterBates

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About 2 years ago it became "AW's do not have to get PC"

Now, it is discouraged by MMCPO. We have 1 or 2 PC AW's rest have not gotten it, or it has lapsed.
 

Brett327

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About 2 years ago it became "AW's do not have to get PC"

Now, it is discouraged by MMCPO. We have 1 or 2 PC AW's rest have not gotten it, or it has lapsed.

I can't remember what the rationale was for the AWs getting qual'd. Was it just to help with the workload on det? It was always a huge hassle keeping track of their quals for PC and Ord Cert. I suspect that as LAMPS transitions to their new deployment model, many things will be easier in that respect, like having real ALSS people to work on gear while deployed.

Brett
 

MasterBates

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Having a PC AW is nice if you have an unplanned RON.

While the HAC can sign the A-Sheet as PC, MC and AC, it is nice to have someone who is actually qual'd there to help.

Deployed, AW's helped only with AC washes (just like the pilots) and worked on ALSS and Guns No DTA's unless we were really in a pinch. Crew rest was usually the driving factor in that. My 1st det, we had an AO, so he did the guns on that cruise.
 

Brett327

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Having a PC AW is nice if you have an unplanned RON.

I don't have the NAMP in front of me, but doesn't a Daily give you 72 Hrs? We never had to do Dailies on the road in Prowlers. Our limfac was usually having to pull a 10 hour oil sample - PITA. It's fun to watch JOs trying to use safety-wire pliers. :D

Brett
 

MasterBates

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Daily, 72, until flown, then 24.

Squadron policy is that if it has been shut down more than 2-3 hours, it gets a daily. We don't crack the tail (part of Daily) on the road, unless it was a planned stop and we have the fold bar and 7 people.
 

Brett327

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Daily, 72, until flown, then 24.

Squadron policy is that if it has been shut down more than 2-3 hours, it gets a daily. We don't crack the tail (part of Daily) on the road, unless it was a planned stop and we have the fold bar and 7 people.

I'm pretty sure we use the "same aircraft commander" rule and use the full 72 hours. Again, no NAMP in front of me for specifics, but that's definitely how we do business.

Brett
 

TheBubba

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The piece about the training pipeline and aircraft selection is a bit dated, but decent info.
 

a_m

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Take out the F-14 and the S-3 and add the E-6 and it might be more complete, but good otherwise.
 

TheBubba

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The training aircraft need to be updated. You fly the T-6 in primary & intermediate, T-1 at the end of intermediate (T-39 for the foreign guys), T-39 in advanced and the T-2 at the end of advanced (USAF studs get winged after they finish the T-39 syllabus)

Note: Thats providing Navy students stay in P-Cola and go jets. USAF, USMC and all foreign students will go to VT-86.
 
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