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Well...It's Official, JPME

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Cyclic

Cyclic

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I think might have talked a little about this but the message just came out, you don't have JPME, you don't make O-5/command...so if you were planning on getting your MBA and get the check in the block....change of plans. Gotta love it. For those about to roll into shore duty do it now...if not you're doomed to try and do it while on sea duty or waste a tour at NPGS, not good.
 
Goober

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Just had two friends not screen. One had, one didn't. Wondered if that might have been a discriminator, but figured it was only a matter of time regardless.
 
DanMa1156

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So what does it mean, JPME, that you get a master's through military programs (ie: Naval Postgraduate School)?

Sorry for not completely understanding this.
 
Goober

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There's a couple ways to get JPME Phase I credit. Attend any of the war college command and staff courses (about a year), attend a foreign war college (pretty sure they give JPME I credit for that), go through the non-resident seminar program (one seminar per academic year, w/ 3 seminars total for navy), or complete the non-resident correspondence course (same mat'l as the seminar but done online).

Phase II credit is only earned by attending Joint Forces Staff College or either Nat'l War College/Industrial College of the Armed Forces (NWC and ICAF award phase I and II). JFSC requires that you have already completed Phase I requirements.

End run: if you're a JO, you've got a while but may want to look into the non-resident programs if the time permits. Have to be an O-3, some require O-4 select depending on the program (you can attend a war college from another service). War college stints were typically done post-DH, but it would seem that post-DH may be a bit late if they start using it for O-5/XO/CO screening. Best bet, work on it during your 1st shore tour if able.
 
VarmintShooter

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Goober said:
... go through the non-resident seminar program (one seminar per academic year, w/ 3 seminars total for navy), or complete the non-resident correspondence course (same mat'l as the seminar but done online).
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Which college(s) offer the non-resident correspondence course?

Is it better to do the correspondence or the seminar (ie. is there a benifit to either of them)?

Also, how challenging is the course? Something that may be easily accomplished while operational (without sacrificing your duties), or something that demands a large portion of your time each week?
 
skidkid

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Its that way ont he green side, need AWS for Maj, need Command and Staff for Ltcol.

You can do this non residetn right? Im sure there are some "study" guides out there.
 
bunk22

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Your JPME will be required for O-5 selection from screen select group 08 and above. I'm doing the CD-ROM based JPME 1 from the Navy War College. It's a lot of reading. A lot of reading. I'm screen group 07 but having that JPME is a good tie breaker for gaining command.
 
phrogdriver

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If it's anything like the Marine side, seminar is the way to go. 2 hours once a week with review sessions that are extremely relevant to the test.
 
Goober

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VarmintShooter said:
Which college(s) offer the non-resident correspondence course?

Is it better to do the correspondence or the seminar (ie. is there a benifit to either of them)?

Also, how challenging is the course? Something that may be easily accomplished while operational (without sacrificing your duties), or something that demands a large portion of your time each week?
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IIRC, all offer a non-resident correspondence side but I'm not sure they all offer that option to all branches. I know the AF will allow the Navy to take theirs.

Have to agree - if given the choice, I'd take the seminar over the correspondence. Then again, takning the correspondence with you while on deployment wouldn't be a waste of time (once you finish all your quals). Only downside to the correspondence side is that it doesn't count for the MA degree under the Naval War College program - has to be resident at Newport or by seminar in one of the "fleet concentration areas." If you have a master's already, I suppose it really wouldn't matter.
 
squeeze

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phrogdriver said:
If it's anything like the Marine side, seminar is the way to go. 2 hours once a week with review sessions that are extremely relevant to the test.
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tell me more..

is this something i'll have to look at once i get to my fleet squadron or will the RAG have such a seminar. thus far, I havent been able to make myself open up the foot-tall stack of MCDPs for phase 1. had I been in the API pool one week later a couple years ago, i wouldve gotten the class, but no....
 
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motiv8r2007

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Back to the green side,

I've read about doing AWS through the distance education program, and I talked to one of the Marine FO's on the Yard about it. He told me that if you're a grunt, you need to be a resident at AWS in Quantico, but it really doesn't matter for Pilots/FO's. I don't want to raise a ruckus, but will it hurt someone going up for command screening to do AWS through correspondence?

Also, how does obtaining a regular master's (i.e. M.S., Engineering vs. M.A. Political Science) fare for those going up for command screening?

What are some pros and cons of not only doing PME degrees through correspondence, but doing a conventional master's through correspondence while managing your duty's as an officer and raising a family? Sorry for all the questions-I'm just curious about postgrad. education in the Marine Corps.
 
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Chris Hill

SNA
I'm being commissioned in 13 days and might be going to either Navy PG School or AF Institute of Technology for either a mechanical or aeronautical engineering masters before flight school (either that or straight to flight school, still haven't heard back...).

Few quick questions about this:

1. Can I do the JPME program as an O-1?
2. Should I do the JPME program as an O-1?
3. Anyone know if they have it out at AFIT?

Thanks for the help. :)
 
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