USN / USNR Commissions

[pennst8]

Our XO made an announcement today that as of 1 MAY 2005 everyone coming out of NROTC will be commissioned as USN rather than USNR.

He implied that this was a good thing, but it wasn't really clear what the difference is between the two. Does it really matter? Does it affect people in any tangible way down the road other than not having to augment?

 

[Brett327]

Our XO made an announcement today that as of 1 MAY 2005 everyone coming out of NROTC will be commissioned as USN rather than USNR.

He implied that this was a good thing, but it wasn't really clear what the difference is between the two. Does it really matter? Does it affect people in any tangible way down the road other than not having to augment?

For all practical purposes, no. The last time it mattered was when they had the drawdown in the early 90s. Some of the USNR guys got involuntarily separated while the regular USN guys didn't. I'm oversimplifying, but you get the point.

Brett

 

[etnuclearsailor]

Is this fact? Where can I find supporting information on this???

 

[gregsivers]

There was a thread a few weeks ago about this, search for "Dropping the R from USNR" and there was a link on one of the posts to the actual Navy message about it.

 

[bch]

My understanding is that you will not have USNR on you name tag, but you will still be USNR. However, I am drunk off my ass right now, so I have no idea

 

[smell the glove]

NAVADMIN 041/05

Effective 1 May 2005, all officers commissioned to active duty will be USN. All current active duty reserve officers (who meet requirements) by 1 May 2006.

 

[VarmintShooter]

PASS TO OFFICE CODES:
FM CNO WASHINGTON DC//N1//
TO NAVADMIN
UNCLAS //N01200//
NAVADMIN 041/05
MSGID/GENADMIN/CNO WASHINGTON DC/N1/MAR//
SUBJ/ANNOUNCING THE TRANSITION OF THE ACTIVE DUTY LIST NAVY OFFICER
/CORPS TO AN ALL REGULAR FORCE//
GENTEXT/REMARKS/1. THE RONALD W. REAGAN NATIONAL DEFENSE
AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FY-05 PROVIDES SEVERAL CHANGES TO LAWS THAT
GOVERN THE INITIAL APPOINTMENT AND STATUS OF ACTIVE DUTY LIST NAVAL
OFFICERS. ONE OF THESE CHANGES DIRECTS THAT ALL INITIAL ACCESSIONS
TO THE ACTIVE DUTY LIST BE COMMISSIONED AS REGULAR OFFICERS (UNITED
STATES NAVY) REGARDLESS OF THE COMMISSIONING SOURCE (UNITED STATES
NAVAL ACADEMY, RESERVE OFFICER TRAINING CORPS, AND OFFICER CANDIDATE
SCHOOL) BEGINNING 1 MAY 2005. THIS CHANGE IN LAW ELIMINATES THE
REQUIREMENT FOR FUTURE AUGMENTATION SELECTION BOARDS.
RE-DESIGNATION BOARDS TO CONSIDER OFFICERS SEEKING TO CHANGE
COMPETITIVE CATEGORIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE HELD.
2. THE AUTHORIZATION ACT ALSO DIRECTS ALL RESERVE OFFICERS
CURRENTLY ON THE ACTIVE DUTY LIST WHO MEET STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS TO
BE TRANSITIONED TO REGULAR STATUS BY 1 MAY 2006. GUIDANCE FOR
TRANSITION OF CURRENT ACTIVE DUTY LIST RESERVE OFFICERS WILL BE
PROVIDED IN A FUTURE NAVADMIN.
3. AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES TO OFFICER PERSONNEL POLICY TO
COMPLY WITH THIS STATUTE, INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED TO INFORM,
ADDRESS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AND EASE TRANSITION FOR AFFECTED
OFFICERS.
4. POC: LCDR ROULSTON AT (703) 693-2313/DSN 223 OR E-MAIL AT
THOMAS.ROULSTON@NAVY.MIL.
5. RELEASED BY VADM G. L. HOEWING, N1.//

There it is ... (thanks for the reference Smell)

 

[Fly Navy]

Ok, so I have to wait till May 1, 2006 then?

 

[VarmintShooter]

Ok, so I have to wait till May 1, 2006 then?

Looks that way (for me too), but I guess that the 'guidance' on the 'statutary requirements' will be out at some future date. I assume that pretty much everyone who's not a bag of cr@p will be transitioned by May, 2006.

But then, you know what they say about assumptions ... :icon_tong

 

[cindy]

:sleep_125 Guess will not be NROTC any longer. NOTC sounds better anyway :icon_smil

 

[NozeMan]

Looks like we no long have to rhyme ROTC Nazi....now we're just Nazis!

 

[redmidgrl]

I heard that the USN commission was just for Academy Mids, and that our NROTC commission was still USNR... This news is awesome!! Thank you, thank you!!

 

[HooverPilot]

I heard that the USN commission was just for Academy Mids, and that our NROTC commission was still USNR... ???

Nope, you heard wrong... ALL Commissioning sources will be USN Commissions.

Read the bold in the excerpt from the message below... (by the way, I just copied this from the message a few above yours so the answer was already there! :icon_tong )

SUBJ/ANNOUNCING THE TRANSITION OF THE ACTIVE DUTY LIST NAVY OFFICER
/CORPS TO AN ALL REGULAR FORCE//
GENTEXT/REMARKS/1. THE RONALD W. REAGAN NATIONAL DEFENSE
AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FY-05 PROVIDES SEVERAL CHANGES TO LAWS THAT
GOVERN THE INITIAL APPOINTMENT AND STATUS OF ACTIVE DUTY LIST NAVAL
OFFICERS. ONE OF THESE CHANGES DIRECTS THAT ALL INITIAL ACCESSIONS
TO THE ACTIVE DUTY LIST BE COMMISSIONED AS REGULAR OFFICERS (UNITED
STATES NAVY) REGARDLESS OF THE COMMISSIONING SOURCE (UNITED STATES
NAVAL ACADEMY, RESERVE OFFICER TRAINING CORPS, AND OFFICER CANDIDATE
SCHOOL) BEGINNING 1 MAY 2005. THIS CHANGE IN LAW ELIMINATES THE
REQUIREMENT FOR FUTURE AUGMENTATION SELECTION BOARDS.
RE-DESIGNATION BOARDS TO CONSIDER OFFICERS SEEKING TO CHANGE
COMPETITIVE CATEGORIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE HELD.

 

[Brett327]

I heard that the USN commission was just for Academy Mids, and that our NROTC commission was still USNR... This news is awesome!! Thank you, thank you!!

Really? Awesome? How come?

Brett

 

[redmidgrl]

Haha because my friend at the Academy didn't tell me it applied to everyone and he was making fun of me for being USNR, while he commissions USN, so now I can laugh back at him :-P