"Mind-opening" more like it. I don't have a thing in the world against jet pukes. There are even a couple in my unit right now, and they're fine Americans. I just get annoyed at some of these kids (not necessarily in this thread, but there have been plenty on the forum) who ask things like,"I'm a freshman in NROTC and I need to know how to get jets, 'cause if I don't I think I'd have to quit the Navy." This from some kid who "doesn't know the color of ****e," to quote my favorite movie. The forum is for "jet issues," not necessarily for just "jet guys." If some 18-year-old can display his ignorance in here, then after 9 years in the Corps I should be able to display mine!