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Uniform Survey In Progress

With respect to working uniforms, which of the following options do you most prefer?

  • Make no changes

    Votes: 11 30.6%
  • Keep the coveralls, discard the rest

    Votes: 7 19.4%
  • Keep the khakis & utilities, discard the rest

    Votes: 8 22.2%
  • Go with some version of the blue/gray camouflage utilities (CU)

    Votes: 4 11.1%
  • Go with solid blue utilities (CU style) for all hands

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Go with solid blue utilities (CU style) for E-6 and below, and solid khaki for E-7 and above

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Total voters
    36

badger

Registered User
The latest phase of the Navy-wide uniform survey is in progress, but it hasn't been given much press. Anyone with a BUPERS Online account can complete it at https://uniformsurvey.bol.navy.mil/.

I've included a poll to see what members here think of various options discussed here and elsewhere.
 

ip568

Registered User
None
The US Navy is the proud owner of arguably the most impractical set of officers' uniforms in the world, and when they get a chance to fix it, they make it worse.

They got rid of the good looking and practical service dress khaki and kept tropical summer short (for those times when your ship docks at one of the great pyramids). They tossed cotton trop khaki long and replaced it with Certified Navy Twill, perhaps the worst uniform ever worn by an American officer or chief. CNT was unbearably hot and snagged just by looking at it and stained just by passing within 100 feet of anything dirty, but it had the redeeming quality of instantly melting onto your skin, and then bursting into flames and burning down to your bones if you were caught near a fire.

We had to wear service dress blue or aviator green when it was 90 degrees and 100% humidity because it was "winter time."

Navy flight suits were, until recently, considered shameful and evil and no one could wear them off base ("Unclean! Unclean!"). Rank patches were forbidden. If you were flying and needed to make a quick run into town to get chow for your crew, you had to change back into the uniform of the day, then change back into your zoom bag again when back through the gate. A violation brought you and your CO before the base CO -- a sure way to an "Entirely satisfactory in present grade" FITREP.

Flight jackets were forbidden away from the flight line, making for those delightful trips in a -20 wind chill in just your summer flight suit when you went back to the Q or to the flight galley. (We heard rumors that the USAF was actually proud of their flight gear, but we discounted them as the propoganda that must surely have been.)

Believe it or not, there used to be a Uniform Office in the Pentagon. The personnel spent their time sitting around a large table and suggesting how uniforms could be made less practical and more uncomfortable. Don't know if they still exist.

So now the Navy is proposing new BDUs, CUs, WDUs, WKs, DBCs. and BVDs. Doesn't surprise me a bit. I am especially taken by the new Navy digital pattern blue and grey BDU, which is supposed to make you invisible against the background of your ship's bulkheads. Whew! THERE's a relief! So when the enemy SSK puts a Shipwreck SSM into your CV they won't be able to actually see you as you scamper energetically across the flight deck, beating your best previous PRT score. I feel safer already.

Seriously, folks, the Navy is always changing its uniforms. I'm just waiting until three-cornered hats come back and my blues will again be legal.

ip568
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
ip568 said:
The US Navy is the proud owner of arguably the most impractical set of officers' uniforms in the world.......ip568
The above is a perfect condensed review of the last 40 years of schizophrenia in Naval Officer's uniforms .... rep points if I could, but this Nazi system won't allow it .....
 

AllAmerican75

FUBIJAR
None
Contributor
We go throught the same thing in Civil Air Patrol. The higher ups seem to think that we need to change the regulations every couple of months and it is a hassle to keep up with the current rules and regs. Also, they tend to discontinue the use of different traditions for no apparent reason. The most recent being the prohibition of the First Sergeant's whistle, as it is a "safety hazard" even though in the past 60 years or so, there hasn't been a single injury caused by it. I'm just glad I don't have to deal with uniform problems 24/7 yet.
 

HAL Pilot

Well-Known Member
None
Contributor
AllAmerican75 said:
What'd I say? Just trying to say that I feel your pain. Geez, why's everybody gotta bust my balls?
Maybe because we are talking about the real military here?
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
AllAmerican75 said:
The higher ups seem to think that we need to change the regulations every couple of months...
So how old are those higher ups?.....16, 17, maybe 18?

AllAmerican75 said:
Also, they tend to discontinue the use of different traditions for no apparent reason.
Those bastards!

AllAmerican75 said:
The most recent being the prohibition of the First Sergeant's whistle, as it is a "safety hazard" even though in the past 60 years or so, there hasn't been a single injury caused by it.
Well, recent evidence suggests that children under the age of 8 should not have pieces of equipment in their mouth due to a choking hazard.

AllAmerican75 said:
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with uniform problems 24/7 yet.
Yea, diapers can be pretty convenient and cost effective too.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
Give the kid a break. Are we trying to encourage or kill youthful enthusiam here??? I don't see too many life-takers and heart-breakers posting herein ..... We were all "young" at one time ....
 

Ryoukai

The Chief doesn't like cheeky humor...at all
Steve - 1
CAP monkey - 0

Edit: To keep this on track, A-4's post reminded me...all politics aside, does anybody else agree that the Nazis had slick uniforms?
 

zab1001

Well-Known Member
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
ip568 said:
Navy flight suits were, until recently, considered shameful and evil and no one could wear them off base ("Unclean! Unclean!"). Rank patches were forbidden. If you were flying and needed to make a quick run into town to get chow for your crew, you had to change back into the uniform of the day, then change back into your zoom bag again when back through the gate. A violation brought you and your CO before the base CO -- a sure way to an "Entirely satisfactory in present grade" FITREP.

Flight jackets were forbidden away from the flight line, making for those delightful trips in a -20 wind chill in just your summer flight suit when you went back to the Q or to the flight galley. (We heard rumors that the USAF was actually proud of their flight gear, but we discounted them as the propoganda that must surely have been.)

God forbid you "show the flag" off base in a flightsuit and encourage some impressionable youngster to ask you about your service and exeperiences in the military. Because we all know a flightsuit looks SO much worse than Lt Colonel Whoever taking a domestic flight in his cammies.

Ludicrous.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't wear a bag to Maui Tacos. That is all.
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
A4sForever said:
Give the kid a break. Are we trying to encourage or kill youthful enthusiam here??? I don't see too many life-takers and heart-breakers posting herein ..... We were all "young" at one time ....
Are you out of limes?
 

Fly Navy

...Great Job!
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
Ryoukai said:
Steve - 1
CAP monkey - 0

Edit: To keep this on track, A-4's post reminded me...all politics aside, does anybody else agree that the Nazis had slick uniforms?

And your military credentials are?
 
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