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uh oh... conflict of interest?

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Texan

Why enemy pilots dont sleep well
ok... this is going to get interesting. I got selected for USMC OCC 191. I am currently working as an engineer, and I was planning on telling them a bit closer to the Jan 22 ship date instead of letting them know 3 months in advance that I'm leaving.

Well, now I've been asked to update my EPSQ and I'm thinking that something they may see is that I'm contracted with the USMC. I'd rather them not know just yet as I'm still doing very interesting work and would like to continue / finish it before leaving in January.

anyone have any advice on how to proceed? would the check see that I'm contracted and ready to ship to OCS in January?

A bit worried,
Texan
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
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You could always, you know, man up and tell the truth.
 

Texan

Why enemy pilots dont sleep well
ouch squeeze. easier said than done in my line of work at this particular time. LOTS of other factors here. I'll start filtering it up though. At least to those directly above me to whom it would matter to.
 

Texan

Why enemy pilots dont sleep well
I'm not concerned about the EPSQ form itself. The only pertinent question there is the one about prior screenings. I'm definitely not ommiting anything that's asked, just not sure if they will come back to our security office and be like... " By the way... this guy's leaving in 3 months, why are you going through this rigamoroll?"
 

squeeze

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Texan said:
ouch squeeze. easier said than done in my line of work at this particular time. LOTS of other factors here. I'll start filtering it up though. At least to those directly above me to whom it would matter to.

sure it is... go up to your boss and say "hey, just fyi, im contracted with the Marine Corps to leave on Jan 22 for OCS... just thought I'd let you know for this EPSQ stuff"

...but I'm not the one for subtlety
 

A4sForever

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Texan said:
......anyone have any advice on how to proceed? .......A bit worried,
Texan
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I've been in this situation before .... so be a man and do the right thing ... quit whining about how to sharpshoot the system to get what YOU WANT. You did indicate you wanted to be a Marine Officer, right??? Last time I checked .... the USMC places a premium on honesty, integrity, and being forthright. If that's not on your radar screen --- don't become a military officer. Stay in your current job and keep on with the "interesting work".

Or do I exaggerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrate .... ??? :)
 

skidkid

CAS Czar
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I think others have hit it already. There is no discussion, either you do the honorable thing or the expedient thing.
Remember what you aspire to be and start acting like it. It only gets harder from here, if you cant hack the requirements now stay where you are.
 

Texan

Why enemy pilots dont sleep well
yeah, yeah, a bit of thought later, and it's all so clear. thanks for the bump in the right direction.
 

ip568

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Tell them

You do not want to be almost through training and have some security clearance DIA inspector ask you why you hid the truth from your former employer.
 

Texan

Why enemy pilots dont sleep well
I'M NOT HIDING ANYTHING!!! ESPECIALLY FROM SECURITY!

Company policy is to notify 2 weeks before you plan on leaving. The problem with telling them early is that they are under no obligation to keep me around after I say I'm leaving. That means that when I tell them I'm leaving in January, they start looking for someone to replace me. If they happen to find someone NOW, then I might very well be SOL from now until the start of OCS. That's why usually, they tell you you're in for the class that's coming up in like a month or so. so you can celebrate for a week or two then tell your current employer, then go to OCS. There is a reason to the madness.
 

jamnww

Hangar Four
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You still want to tell them as soon as possible, you won't gain anything be waiting and you are risking alot...
 

jg5343

FLY NAVY...Divers need the work
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Texan said:
I'M NOT HIDING ANYTHING!!! ESPECIALLY FROM SECURITY!

Company policy is to notify 2 weeks before you plan on leaving. The problem with telling them early is that they are under no obligation to keep me around after I say I'm leaving. That means that when I tell them I'm leaving in January, they start looking for someone to replace me. If they happen to find someone NOW, then I might very well be SOL from now until the start of OCS. That's why usually, they tell you you're in for the class that's coming up in like a month or so. so you can celebrate for a week or two then tell your current employer, then go to OCS. There is a reason to the madness.

I am pretty sure that you are guaranteed your job back since you are joining an all volunteer army, and you also may not be fired for joining the military, active or reserve (My brother had a very high paying job and joined the Army in lieu of 9/11. He was worried about the same stuff and the company lawyer gave this info to him as federal law, take it for what its worth until confirmed). Maybe some legal guy on here can help me out on this one, but the bottom line is you should not be afraid to tell them. Although I can understand that you feel you may be treated different until you leave in January. Good luck!
 

skidkid

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Ok I think we have solved the ethics crisis. Texan only needed a nudge not a lecture and it has been given. I dont think this thread really serves any other purpose other than for review. Locked
 
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