More of a regional dialect from the hills up in Maine.Did you invent “helimaflopter” or did you steal it from @Treetop Flyer?
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Trying for AD pilot through OCS/OTS. USAF/USN AD pilot pros and cons?
- Thread starter UmYahYah
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Why would you think it would be any different now?
The Navy and the AF as a fundamentally different today as they were 100 years ago.
Don't base your decision on the intricacies that can and will change by the time you get to the fleet. Base your decision on what service you want to be an Officer in (if you fail out of flight school, or lose your medical qual, or whatever, you're going to get another job....) . Navy guys do the boat thing, and deploy on boats. Marines do the infantry thing, and deploy on boats. Navy and Marines don't have a lot of land bases, and you'll see the same ones over and over and over again. AF has a lot of bases and airplanes all over the place, they don't deploy on boats.
If you want travel to weird and exotic locales, then being a helo driver on an independent deployer is the best gig around. Sadly, that's becoming a bit of a rarity these days with the loss of Frigates and the reshuffling of how we do surface ops. At the end of the day, you have to decide what's most important for you and then rank and stack your choices based upon those priorities. It seems like you're looking for someone to tell you which way to go and give you permission to choose the USAF or the World's Finest Navy. We aren't really in the business of doing that here.
I come from an Air Force family. I knew I wanted to fly since I was a little kid and chose the Navy because all of my heroes and LT Pete Mitchell were Naval Aviators and not just Air Force pilots. Sadly, I didn't get to live out my dream, but I'm still one of the most interesting people in my family. In fact, my first liberty port was Dakar, Senegal, where I was nearly killed in a riot. Among my exploits I have narrowly avoided colliding two ships in the Straits of Gibraltar, wandered around Honduras with a former CIA hitman, befriended mafia wise guys in Casablanca, scuba dived Roman ruins, and been a passenger in more dangerous taxi rides than I can count. You don't get to do those kinds of things in the USAF. Also, you don't get to find out why the stories about Thailand are in no way exaggerated. I have now become that cool uncle who comes to holiday parties and tells wild stories and has trophies throughout his house from his adventures.
At the end of the day it's all about how you want to live your life and WHO you want to be. The choice is yours.
Is that still an option?
Holy cow. Hero. If he was still on active duty, Navy and Marine Corps Medal (or Soldier’s/ Airman’s Medal).
I think the phrase, "Don't knock it til you've tried it" applies.
To be fair, the USAF didn't technically exist 100 years ago.....though the Navy, as well as its air arm did.
That's right- the fliers in the Army were part of the Signal Corps, right? I'm pretty sure the Signal Corps was the predecessor of IT.
Some but most were in the Army Air Corps. The Signal Corps pilots had different wings and were limited to types of aircraft they could fly.
Just looking to fly?
Go ANG, or AF Reserve, seriously.
You can pick your platform and location and don’t have to risk going helicopters. Depnding on community, travel opportunities are equal to or better than AD counterparts.
ANG/AFR is more relaxed than AD.
You can stay flying you’re entire time, and have flexibility to do other stuff too if you chose to do so (Airlines, Govt job, private industry, self employment etc).
If you want to fly and only fly, but need to go AD, go to the Air Force. You’ll spend most of your career there. A standardized set of rules makes for a professional flying organization. Better equipped and better funded (AF bases are in a lot more congressional districts than Navy bases).
The Navy is great if you like the idea of being in the Navy, think boats are cool and want to spend years on some. You get 3 flying tours in the Navy (First tour, Department head tour and CO tour), you’re completely at the Navy’s needs as to where you go every other tour. Port calls can be cool, but also super lame, or non existent and you don’t get that many on deployment (3 days a month if lucky). You’ve got all the draconian rule enforcement in the Navy that you have in the Air Force, I promise. It’s might manifest differently but it’s there.
All that being said, if you’re looking for leadership/management experience, go Navy. All those things that take away from flying in the Navy (and there are a lot of them) usually involve management/leadership of others.
Or Army helo Warrant, no?
He said he didn’t want to get “stuck flying helos. I’m interested in fixed wing.” Otherwise yes.
I e-mailed a friend from the NH Air Guard (tanker pilot) and he said if you are going ANG fly for an Air Mobility Command unit of you want hours...skip fighters he feels they are slowly on their way out of the Guard and, amazing to me, CV-22’s are the new hotness in the Guard. On the other hand, he said most active duty kids are getting funneled into global strike command right now but that changes quarter to quarter. Add to that, he said the AF is way short of UAV pilots and expects a lot of students to get sent to that pipeline but also that they recruit for UAV pilots directly.
Sure, but Army Air Corps = Air Force. The differences were the same back then too. And the AF definitely derives their culture from their time as the AAC, before 1947. They have many of the same units, and all.
Copy you have gobbled all the Kool aide
(I kid....my grandpa was an Air Corps pilot turned USAF)
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