Ticket On Base....

[TheMattAttack]

Hey all,


So here's my question. I'm a civilian and was dropping my buddy off on base when they decided to car check me. Two major problems. A.) My license was expired. (long story don't ask). And B.) I didn't have any proof of insurance on me at the time. Which I do have insurance and proof. The guy wrote me two of what I think are fix it tickets for each but I'm not really sure. If someone can enlighten me a little bit and kind of tell me what's going to happen that'd be great. I heard that I'm going to have to go to court, but upon my apperance in court, if I present proof of insurance on the date the citation was given that will be cancelled. I hear the same goes for the license situation so long as i fix it before the court date. Is this information accurate? Any help will be much appreciated. I'm just curious as to what will be happening. The gentlemen at the gate really didn't seem to know what was going to happen. Thank you.

 

[Lawman]

First question, was it an actual MP/SF or was it a contract security guard. I only ask because they have both on the Air Force bases I frequent. A LEO (read MP/SP) can issue a citation, a security guard hired under contract cannot. Best move on your part would be to contact the base police department and have them check to see the status as to whether you have to provide any information after the fact or whether this was just a warning or not. Better safe then sorry with this kind of stuff because it can come back to seriously bite you.

 

[TheMattAttack]

It was MP. And they did issue a ticket. And I believe I have a court date. But I'm not too familar with what happens. I think they're issued as fix it tickets? And if I fail to renew the license and show proof of insurance then I have to pay bail? I'm just not so sure something like that could be issued as a fix it ticket or if that is the only kind of ticket they can issue on base?

 

[wrk]

Why is it that military bases are the only place you get asked for proof of insurance. Do normal cops have all that stuff on their fancy computers or something? I got pulled over at NPA and they wanted everything, license, military ID, proof of insurance, and registriation. I've been pulled over a few times off base, 3 times in the last few years and all they ever wanted was my license.

Anyway, if these people were MPs, can they even do anything to you in the court system off base? I would think the "court date" would be something on base, and if you failed to show, the worst thing that could happen would be you not being allowed on base. But even still, you should probably get a new license, I'm sure you know it's not a good idea to drive around without a valid license. The best way to find all this out would be to call the base police and ask them exactly what you need to do.

 

[HighDimension]

Why is it that military bases are the only place you get asked for proof of insurance.

I've had to provide that everytime I've been pulled over in Pensacola. (3 times)

 

[Carno]

Me too; I've always been asked for it.

 

[Tex_Hill]

Here in Texas, cities have started towing the vehicles of those unable to show proof of valid insurance.

 

[Lawman]

Why is it that military bases are the only place you get asked for proof of insurance. Do normal cops have all that stuff on their fancy computers or something? I got pulled over at NPA and they wanted everything, license, military ID, proof of insurance, and registriation. I've been pulled over a few times off base, 3 times in the last few years and all they ever wanted was my license.

Anyway, if these people were MPs, can they even do anything to you in the court system off base? I would think the "court date" would be something on base, and if you failed to show, the worst thing that could happen would be you not being allowed on base. But even still, you should probably get a new license, I'm sure you know it's not a good idea to drive around without a valid license. The best way to find all this out would be to call the base police and ask them exactly what you need to do.

1. You are always required to provide proof of insurance. Like Tex said a lot of municipalities are going to the "prove it or we pull it" method, which I do agree with.

2. Not paying this ticket would be the same as not showing up into court in some middle of nowhere town you just happened to be driving through. Your license can be suspended or worse. So yeah pay the ticket.

 

[Brett327]

Why is it that military bases are the only place you get asked for proof of insurance. Do normal cops have all that stuff on their fancy computers or something? I got pulled over at NPA and they wanted everything, license, military ID, proof of insurance, and registriation. I've been pulled over a few times off base, 3 times in the last few years and all they ever wanted was my license.

Anyway, if these people were MPs, can they even do anything to you in the court system off base? I would think the "court date" would be something on base, and if you failed to show, the worst thing that could happen would be you not being allowed on base. But even still, you should probably get a new license, I'm sure you know it's not a good idea to drive around without a valid license. The best way to find all this out would be to call the base police and ask them exactly what you need to do.

So does that mean civilians should be able to go on base and commit other infractions without penalty? Murder? Rape? Oops, I'd better get back to work before Wrk get's upset.

Brett

 

[NavyCommsET]

Look at the ticket and see if it is a military ticket or a civilian ticket. Here in Hawaii, when pulled over on base with either of your infractions, we are authorized to write and issue civilian tickets and you have to go to city/county traffic court. if it was something like speeding or a parking infraction, then it would be a military ticket. Military tickets usually = points against your license in the military system only. Civilian tickets = traffic court, fines, and/ or etc.

 

[Goober]

Unless something's changed, any on-base ticket and court appearance can (usually?) go before the federal magistrate's traffic court (at least that was the case at my last assignment). Skip out on it, and I would think that it'd have the same repercussions as failing to appear at a civ court (poss eventual bench warrant?). The guys above are right - call the base police and do it the right way. Blowing it off would probably be a bad idea.

 

[skidkid]

Not really.
There is no fine associated with an onbase ticket.
I usually handled my onbase tickets by going to the legal office and telling the LCpl clerk there that I was too busy to make my Magistrate appointment and was pleading guilty. One signature and I was done.

 

[nittany03]

Not only that, I'm not sure about other insurance, but USAA doesn't even count it against you record. Found this out when I got nailed for speeding a couple years back. Bloody 10 overs . . . :icon_rage

 

[A4sForever]

Hey all,......Two major problems. A.) My license was expired. B.) I didn't have any proof of insurance on me at the time. ...

HEY, "THE" ....

Sooooooooo ..... you want to be an officer???

Then you better tighten up and get your act together ... you can't afford "TWO major problems" as a Naval Officer ....

There's no slack in Light/Medium/Heavy Attack ....

 

[TheMattAttack]

HEY, "THE" ....

Sooooooooo ..... you want to be an officer???

Then you better tighten up and get your act together ... you can't afford "TWO major problems" as a Naval Officer ....

There's no slack in Light/Medium/Heavy Attack ....

A4's,

This I understand. I'm usually pretty squared away. Since my father was in the Navy he has a pretty tight leash on me. I had an inquiry and called the insurance agent that day and left my proof in insurance on the table. And about my license, I hadn't known it was expired yet. I sent my money via mail to the DMV and was waiting for a new one. I'm not trying to make excuses, in both situations I was in the wrong. Hence me making some phone calls today to see what I need to do. I'm barely 19 and still in college, I still have some learning to do.