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The right aircraft wins…again
- Thread starter phrogdriver
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Pretty much the same stuff as an Osprey—the Pylon Conversion Actuator and related equipment.
None of that stuff is considered particularly vulnerable? What sort of icing restrictions are anticipated in that flight regime? Looks like an ice and snow trap. Even nice dry snow crammed up in there would seem to prohibit the full rotation back down, or damage something when you try. How will you know what you have accumulated?
I'd have though the Osprey was a bit more protected since the entire nacelle rotates up.
johnpauljones1776
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I would imagine there is bleed air routed all up in there
The PCA in the Osprey is just as exposed if you look.
Look how much of the critical flight controls are exposed on most.helicopters.
I think you’re creating an issue that isn’t there.
Not creating issues. Curious though. Sure helos have critical stuff exposed. There are mitaging systems in most cases, or flight restrictions. Wondering about this case is all. Not aware of a helo that has a FOD and ice trap like this. Sure bleed air works. But a gaping hole like that would require a lot of power sucking bleed air. And I can't at this point imagine any kind of partical separator working there. Let's face it. Tilt rotors are still relatively new technology. Solutions to their unique issues are not exactly off the shelf. Thought the solutions would be interesting to hear about.
johnpauljones1776
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I wouldn’t be surprised if there will be some sort of cove panel added. Unfortunately there will most likely have to be an accident for Bell to invest into nacelle design change, I just hope it won’t be fatal. Joby and archer appear to have similar architecture and might have the same issues in the future
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That’s not an intake. The engine intake does have a particle separator.
This is only exposed at low speeds.
Any fairing would add complexity for purely cosmetic considerations.
This is like saying the swashplates and rotor heads of helicopters need to have a fairing and bleed air source. They’re just as exposed.
I mean, look at all these complex moving parts just exposed to the elements. Outrageous!
What issues, exactly? You say this as though someone has articulated an actual possible malfunction mode, vice “Yup, looks like there’s a hole down there or somethin’. Sure looks funny to me.”
Dude... tilt rotors have been flying for 70+ years. Considering that there are posters here with actual experience with these platforms, you may consider that shutting the fuck up may be one of your best options in this thread.
johnpauljones1776
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Miss spoke, fixed
What did you fix, exactly? You're still making the same claim without evidence or rationale that you did before.
DONT BE TALKING $HIT ABOUT TILTOTORSDude... tilt rotors have been flying for 70+ years. Considering that there are posters here with actual experience with these platforms, you may consider that shutting the fuck up may be one of your best options in this thread.
Looking at the rotorhead made me think that Bell has never commercially produced a fully articulated helicopter. Can anybody think of one?