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The perfect candidate for what remains of the Navy IRR-ASP program?

no one made it

ASP or bust
What I'm trying to figure out is if I can safely transition to the IRR-ASP and finish this out that way, allowing me some flexibility with regards to all the requirements of the NOSC. I could shift my focus to knocking out courses and having them ready to submit the day after my point capture rolls over to 19 yrs 11 mths 10 dys. ....
MAN!! If I was in my 20th year year I would leave well enough alone. Ride it out in whatever status you're currently in, minim ize opportunity for surprises or unintended consequences. I'm freaking out on your behalf right now.

I'm pretty puzzled by what you're saying about "7 points left" and only needing 7 points after your anniversary year. It doesn't make sense. Post a cropped snapshot of your ASOSH, just the points without your personal info.
 
Agree with this. I think this is a lot of risk when you are so close.

MAN!! If I was in my 20th year year I would leave well enough alone. Ride it out in whatever status you're currently in, minim ize opportunity for surprises or unintended consequences. I'm freaking out on your behalf right now.

I'm pretty puzzled by what you're saying about "7 points left" and only needing 7 points after your anniversary year. It doesn't make sense. Post a cropped snapshot of your ASOSH, just the points without your personal info.
 

tech01

New Member
MAN!! If I was in my 20th year year I would leave well enough alone. Ride it out in whatever status you're currently in, minim ize opportunity for surprises or unintended consequences. I'm freaking out on your behalf right now.

I'm pretty puzzled by what you're saying about "7 points left" and only needing 7 points after your anniversary year. It doesn't make sense. Post a cropped snapshot of your ASOSH, just the points without your personal info.
Thanks so much. Truly grateful for the help. Here is my Point Capture (PII removed):
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Statement from PERS-912:
Please visit your Command Career Counselor. Per BUPERS 1001.39F CHG 1, Chapter 20, (20-44, figure 20-5, enclosure (1)), you may be eligible to retire 05/01/2019. You will be required to accrue 7 points between 03/16/19 – 04/30/19. You must complete the time as well as the points to receive qualifying time. Retirements without pay are only effective on the 1st of the month.
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Hopefully this sheds some light on my situation. I've spoken in the past about this with my CCC. Unfortunately, she was unable to shed any light on the predicament. It seems to be entirely related to my Anniversary Date, which was in fact changed back in 2015 from September to March (long story behind this...but related to a misunderstanding regarding the points in my point capture and a recalculation\anniversary date change as a result). Had my Anniversary date landed in June I'd be in a different situation, having hit my points for year 20 and simply waiting for my point capture to reflect 20 good years in June 2019.

Very grateful for all of the comments and feedback here.
 

subreservist

Active Member
As others have mentioned, I wouldn't risk retirement on anything not in writing.

I wouldn't get caught up in the "I have x yrs, x months, x days" game. What IS in writing is you need 20 GOOD years to retire. Obtaining 7 points does NOT equal a good year. You need to shoot for at LEAST 35 and get your 15 gratuity (although to be safe, you should strive for even more).

Those "extra" points also go into your retirement calculation, so there is value in the effort.

It's only 1 more year, my friend. Don't overthink it!
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
Thanks so much. Truly grateful for the help. Here is my Point Capture (PII removed):
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Statement from PERS-912:
Please visit your Command Career Counselor. Per BUPERS 1001.39F CHG 1, Chapter 20, (20-44, figure 20-5, enclosure (1)), you may be eligible to retire 05/01/2019. You will be required to accrue 7 points between 03/16/19 – 04/30/19. You must complete the time as well as the points to receive qualifying time. Retirements without pay are only effective on the 1st of the month.
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Hopefully this sheds some light on my situation. I've spoken in the past about this with my CCC. Unfortunately, she was unable to shed any light on the predicament. It seems to be entirely related to my Anniversary Date, which was in fact changed back in 2015 from September to March (long story behind this...but related to a misunderstanding regarding the points in my point capture and a recalculation\anniversary date change as a result). Had my Anniversary date landed in June I'd be in a different situation, having hit my points for year 20 and simply waiting for my point capture to reflect 20 good years in June 2019.

Very grateful for all of the comments and feedback here.
This is a rather complicated point capture. If you look at the year 1994, it is split into 2 parts when in reality 12/12/93 to 12/11/94 is (likely) your anniversary year: 48 points + 13 points = 61 points and a "good" year. (I am assuming you left active duty the first time on Jan 28, 1994 and did not affiliate with the reserves - but you still get 13 out of 15 points for simply being in the IRR.) Any other reservist here want to take a look? Also, I never see anything about a September anniversary date but I do see a 12 Dec date, then a 26 Aug date, and then finally a 16 Mar anniversary date.

Again, this is something you need to contact a specialist in Millington about and get something in stone cold writing - and with a point capture this complicated and easily misconstrued, I would still do an extra year of 50+ points to be absolutely safe.
 

tech01

New Member
This is a rather complicated point capture. If you look at the year 1994, it is split into 2 parts when in reality 12/12/93 to 12/11/94 is (likely) your anniversary year: 48 points + 13 points = 61 points and a "good" year. (I am assuming you left active duty the first time on Jan 28, 1994 and did not affiliate with the reserves - but you still get 13 out of 15 points for simply being in the IRR.) Any other reservist here want to take a look? Also, I never see anything about a September anniversary date but I do see a 12 Dec date, then a 26 Aug date, and then finally a 16 Mar anniversary date.

Again, this is something you need to contact a specialist in Millington about and get something in stone cold writing - and with a point capture this complicated and easily misconstrued, I would still do an extra year of 50+ points to be absolutely safe.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm working with Millington as I do believe there is some time they owe me (if anything, the missing 20 days in 1995). I did leave Active Duty on 28 Jan 1994, and didn't affiliate as a SELRES until ~ July\August 1995. But then in Nov 1995, I went back on Active Duty.

Regarding the Anniversary Date change...it was never quite clear as to why they selected March as opposed to what it was in September. Had to do with the fact that my point capture in 2015 showed me already at 19+ yrs, coming up on retirement eligibility. My belief is they screwed up and counted some of my bad years. So I submitted my retirement request, only for them to recalculate my points and boot me from SELRES to VTU, letting me know that I was also HYT. It was in this process that my Anniversary Date, which had been in September since my most recent return to the reserves in 2008, changed to March.

As an aside note, my current contract ends in December 2019. Doubtful I'd be able to reenlist beyond that. It was an ordeal to reenlist my last go around due to the HYT status.
 

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
Thanks for the feedback. I'm working with Millington as I do believe there is some time they owe me (if anything, the missing 20 days in 1995). I did leave Active Duty on 28 Jan 1994, and didn't affiliate as a SELRES until ~ July\August 1995. But then in Nov 1995, I went back on Active Duty.
If you have copies of the endorsed orders from that time, Millington will credit you in short order. I had 365+ days missing from my record and thankfully kept the endorsed orders. I faxed them to a gentleman in Millington who entered them in to my record.
 

Hair Warrior

JO 1835
Contributor
If you have copies of the endorsed orders from that time, Millington will credit you in short order. I had 365+ days missing from my record and thankfully kept the endorsed orders. I faxed them to a gentleman in Millington who entered them in to my record.
Sir, where/who in Millington do we send these? My ARPR is jacked up, too, and my NOSC said they won't/can't assist.
 

tech01

New Member
If you have copies of the endorsed orders from that time, Millington will credit you in short order. I had 365+ days missing from my record and thankfully kept the endorsed orders. I faxed them to a gentleman in Millington who entered them in to my record.
I was on Active Duty at that time. My DD-214 shows the dates entered and dates departed active duty. I faxed that, along with my point capture to them.

Fax number for PERS-912 in Millington is: 901-874-7044

I faxed my details to them two days ago. Haven't had a response yet.
 
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